1975 Plastic fantastic aka Corvette

[SuperBuickGuy]

actually, I was pretty fortunate, a couple degrees and it would have landed on my garden shed - you know, the one that has the tractor, bobcat, CR500, and all the garden tools in it? in this case, it toasted a treehouse - and while I will probably have to do some kind of fix on that (it's amazing the number of kids we entertain) it could have been a lot worse.... pictures a bit later

[Deaf Bob]

Hope all is well and not much damage to your house! .
Was kinda windy last night..

[Beagle]

Ah, Hemlock. in the words of a great philosopher, Socrates... "I Drank WHAT?"

I have no idea where this conversation is headed, so here's a haiku:



Hemlock tree falling
why must gravity guide you
to land on my house

[SuperBuickGuy]

all good ideas, but I'm sad, now
That tree, hit my house



my treehouse DAMN YOU HEMLOCK TREES, YOU WILL ALL DIE!!!!!!!

*sniff*

[Beagle]

a chainsaw.. we used to use WD40 as starting fluid for chainsaws. It won't light anymore... they should call it WD41.

There's a 396 cranked 454 bored BBB in this conversation now? For the Fiat? Won't that upset it's balance?

I wasn't paying close enough attention to when you bought Victor Jr heads and a snotty solid roller for the 350.. I'm really just trying to keep up here.

I'm all about neanderthal... don't get me wrong. I think it's great. For your car. haha. I don't think I would enjoy something that needs a 5000 stall converter for anything but drag racing. Are you gonna put 5.13's in the 'vette?

A compound turbo'd 4cyl baby Duramax should work it's way into the conversation any time now.

OH - how much do you want for the Fiat? I've got this Kubota v2203di you see, and I like that I wouldn't have to cut mine up... then you could put the Buick back in the shed. Your wife is probably already dizzy from the cars coming in and out of the shop, she'll probably never notice. If she does, maybe we could work a trade. Mine has a top still so you could put it outside and keep the Buick inside.

I really don't remember what heads you put on the 350, what were they? A 377 is an interesting choice, like Stew said... big bore 327 more or less.

[SuperBuickGuy]

what do you use for a tree that fell on the neighbor's house?

[Deaf Bob]

You both are quoting a philosopher, just not Newton, and no Murphy's first name wasn't Newton

If it moves and ain't supposedta, use duct tape
If it doesn't move and is supposedta, use WD-40..

[SuperBuickGuy]

you mention light fiat, I mention aluminum 6.2
you mention high dollar LS parts, I mention that you can make 500 with a 6.0 and a cam. (okay, and springs...)
you mention reciprocal mass (but I didn't see cylinder side loading), I mention a 377 being a popular dirt combo.

I'm just giving you shit. Build what you want. If I were looking at low buck LS builds, though, I'd look at the 5.3 or boost a 4.8.

None of them are cheap when you start buying heads... but you don't have to buy heads if you get the right LS, or the right 454 for that matter.

gawd I'm confused. You're arguing FOR and AGAINST the BBC in the same thread? Starting to look like one of my project threads where I argue with myself over engine choice. lol.

but that's the rub, I don't have to buy heads, or side pipes - they're already on the Corvette.... no really, there is method to the madness. In any case, that little blip I posted before - about 589 hp and 516 torque... that is more than LS.

I'm building a BBB, I'm not building a BBC... no confusion there. I'm building a relatively cheap 377 (or at least that's what I'm proposing)... while the LS is cool with its cross bolted mains - frankly, at 600 hp, I don't need them. Add to this issue - if you noted in the suggested build thread, there were prices there....

[Beagle]

yeah, 'cept ol SBG here is flip floppin around like he's a lawyer or something.

[Stewzer55]

It's called discussing the pros and cons of either engine architecture. What would Zora Do?

[Beagle]

you mention light fiat, I mention aluminum 6.2
you mention high dollar LS parts, I mention that you can make 500 with a 6.0 and a cam. (okay, and springs...)
you mention reciprocal mass (but I didn't see cylinder side loading), I mention a 377 being a popular dirt combo.

I'm just giving you shit. Build what you want. If I were looking at low buck LS builds, though, I'd look at the 5.3 or boost a 4.8.

None of them are cheap when you start buying heads... but you don't have to buy heads if you get the right LS, or the right 454 for that matter.

gawd I'm confused. You're arguing FOR and AGAINST the BBC in the same thread? Starting to look like one of my project threads where I argue with myself over engine choice. lol.

[SuperBuickGuy]

the answer is screaming itself in this sentence.

especially since people are giving away 396 cranks... you know, those pesky little cranks that, in a BBC make 427 ci....

and if that doesn't convince you... consider this....

[Stewzer55]

That car is gonna need its own thread, but threads are worthless without pics and I don't have any.

[SuperBuickGuy]

Eh... I've seen too many race car motors with 3.75 (and longer) strokes that will turn just as many rpms as the shorter stoke engines. If balanced properly and good parts are used, the limiting factor to the rpm is the valve train... but... on the other hand, I suppose that with the shorter stroke, less expensive parts are required to ensure (insure?) the parts stay inside the block and oil pan.

carry on.

I don't drag race. What I play in has people with their itty-bitty motors eating the BBC's for lunch because weight...

[SuperBuickGuy]

So what I hear you saying is that it's too easy to get 500 hp out of a 6.0 with a cam, the aluminum 6.2 is just too light, and building a dirt track motor is what you really have in mind?

most 6.0s are cast iron, at least all 6.0, and 6.2s that are available for less than 2 grand.... so I'm not sure what your point is.