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  • Originally posted by mike343sharpstick View Post
    I like this Greenwood body kit
    I'm pretty sure that's a Duntov car with a Greenwood suspension

    Originally posted by Bob Holmes View Post
    Yes, Mike, Yes!! That's the one.

    Like grumpy...I mean SBG...I don't like the big fender IMSA look either.

    Yep, you got me SBG. As a former C2 owner, however, I feel empowered to throw out the gold chain stereotype from time to time. If we can't laugh at ourselves, then we should do something else.

    This is becoming interesting.
    it's funny, to me, how people tend to hate on the C3s, but really do like them with just the modicrum of change...

    Originally posted by Beagle View Post
    Aluminum 6.2 from an Escalade is what I meant... diet.
    You're really not saving that much weight with an aluminum block vs. a cast iron block. While aluminum is lighter, you need a 1/3rd more material to get the same strength as cast iron.... plus... 6.2 = 378 ci vs. 427 ci. I'll go with more cubes.

    It never occurred to me about aluminum weights until TA performance pointed out that their aluminum block weighs almost exactly the same as a cast iron block - for that strength reason.
    Doing it all wrong since 1966

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    • The weight difference between the blocks is fairly significant......

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      GM production BBC---259-269 lbs.
      Dart BBC----4.25" bore 280 lbs., 4.5" bore 260 lbs.
      World Products BBC----approx. 270 lbs.
      Brodix Aluminum BBC----160 lbs.

      GM production 350----181-187 lbs.
      Dart SHP block--------175 lbs.
      Dart Little M----------205 lbs.
      Dart Aluminum block---95 lbs.


      GM 6.0L block--171-178 lbs. (cast iron LS series block)
      GM LS2 block--103-110 lbs. (aluminum LS series block)

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      • Based on what I've found, the LS1 block is 106 pounds, the 6.0 is 216.. Just thinking over 100 pounds off the front end for aluminum. I know what 2.54 cubed is.
        Last edited by Beagle; November 22, 2013, 12:07 PM.
        Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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        • 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",
          Last edited by Bob Holmes; November 22, 2013, 12:43 PM.
          I'm still learning

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          • Originally posted by chevy3100truck View Post
            The weight difference between the blocks is fairly significant......

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            GM production BBC---259-269 lbs.
            Dart BBC----4.25" bore 280 lbs., 4.5" bore 260 lbs.
            World Products BBC----approx. 270 lbs.
            Brodix Aluminum BBC----160 lbs.

            GM production 350----181-187 lbs.
            Dart SHP block--------175 lbs.
            Dart Little M----------205 lbs.
            Dart Aluminum block---95 lbs.


            GM 6.0L block--171-178 lbs. (cast iron LS series block)
            GM LS2 block--103-110 lbs. (aluminum LS series block)
            70 lbs - how much does $3,000 weigh? Plus, it's not on the nose, the waterpump is actually behind the centerline of the front axle.

            Originally posted by Beagle View Post
            Based on what I've found, the LS1 block is 106 pounds, the 6.0 is 216.. Just thinking over 100 pounds off the front end for aluminum. I know what 2.54 cubed is.
            let's see, so for 70 lbs.... I can build a 500 hp BBC with a power curve 3.2 miles wide, the 6.2 is 430 hp with a narrower powerband that starts further up in RPMs - honestly, it'll be interesting to see how badly I beat up on my friend who's building the 6.0 77 Corvette (he isn't yet convinced, but it'll happen )..... but for the 3k I'd save.... I can find weight savings elsewhere (not that I honestly think it matters).

            Originally posted by Bob Holmes View Post
            4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",
            So Bob, you're in favor of 4"?
            Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; November 22, 2013, 02:15 PM.
            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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            • ? I was asking if you were looking at aluminum 6.2 blocks since you mentioned them and they put them in Caddilacs, JG... it's your money, use it when you want to.
              Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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              • Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                ? I was asking if you were looking at aluminum 6.2 blocks since you mentioned them and they put them in Caddilacs, JG... it's your money, use it when you want to.
                If I was going to turbo this car, I'd be all over a 6.2 since they're strong enough to do that.... but I'm not, this car is NA and going to be used for autocross and race tracks - thus the simpler the better. Thus, I'll save the $3000 and use the money to buy forgelines or similar high-quality wheels
                Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                • Originally posted by Bob Holmes View Post
                  4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",
                  X's 4
                  If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower. - Mark Donohue

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                  • Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
                    So I didn't "need" another project. But sometimes deals come along that throw need right out the window.

                    it needs assembly, and that is all I'm going to do. Assemble, paint, sell, fund 1950 Sedanet.... of course, I said something like those words about my Buick (which I've owned for 8 years).... so without further adieu....
                    Pfffft.
                    Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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                    • Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                      Pfffft.
                      20 months & 139 pages later....
                      http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showt...n-block-wanted

                      http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showt...-Blue-Turd(le)

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                      • Originally posted by Beagle View Post
                        Pfffft.
                        I've been so overwhelmed by your finished projects.... oh wait....
                        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                        • Finished bangshifter project... another urban legend or myth...
                          Patrick & Tammy
                          - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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                          • Originally posted by silver_bullet View Post
                            Finished bangshifter project... another urban legend or myth...
                            I could have been mean and said something about Fords, not running, and Beags... but that would have been just wrong to say such a thing
                            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                            • I know, so, today, I had a couple of blue oval fans telling me that my Chevys, GMCs and Pontiac are all just another problem waiting to happen, that Ford circles the problem, making it easy to find...
                              Patrick & Tammy
                              - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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                              • Originally posted by Bob Holmes View Post
                                4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4", 4",
                                you were right about side pipes, I presume you're right about this as well. I ordered the 4" flares

                                so here's some pictures of what my car will look like at the end of these body mods
                                Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; November 22, 2013, 07:11 PM.
                                Doing it all wrong since 1966

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