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[Scott Liggett]

They put a gear vendors on the superbee those are quite expensive compared to just getting the trans rebuilt.

Got the 700r4 out this afternoon in about 2 hrs. sitting on my garage floor right now, going off to the rebuilder tomorrow. friend of a friend who knows how to rebuild transmissions on the side. he said he has a case coming in to put my parts in, so shouldnt be too long.

I noticed a big improvement with the overdrive trans vs the Powerglide.

Hell yeah, 3.06 first gear compared to 1.76 in the Powerglide.

[Shelty]

I don't remember were i seen it, think maybe an episode of roadkill were they bolted on a overdrive to the back of a Dodge.

They put a gear vendors on the superbee those are quite expensive compared to just getting the trans rebuilt.

Got the 700r4 out this afternoon in about 2 hrs. sitting on my garage floor right now, going off to the rebuilder tomorrow. friend of a friend who knows how to rebuild transmissions on the side. he said he has a case coming in to put my parts in, so shouldnt be too long.

I noticed a big improvement with the overdrive trans vs the Powerglide.

[Runner1972]

Aint that the truth. When the 4l60 went bad in my 04 Trailblazer, all the shops just swap the trans. I'm on my 3rd Jasper in 1 year.

On my 06 Freestar or Trailblazer I don't notice much if any difference if I use OD. That's why I haven't put a T5 in my 66 and stuck with the wide ratio 4 speed Toploader.

Jasper seems to be used alot in my area but i've heard good and bad.

With the 72, we bought a new motor. Did not want to waste time knowing what the hell got replaced or did not with a reman. The transmission got rebuilt by a shop that did a great job,except for the wrong bolts in the crossmember but i was able to fix that with a prybar and some grade 5's.

[Huskinhano]

That sucks I thought you had a turbo 350 in the wagon. Most of the local transmission guys in town here don't even want to be bothered with rebuilding anymore.

Aint that the truth. When the 4l60 went bad in my 04 Trailblazer, all the shops just swap the trans. I'm on my 3rd Jasper in 1 year.

On my 06 Freestar or Trailblazer I don't notice much if any difference if I use OD. That's why I haven't put a T5 in my 66 and stuck with the wide ratio 4 speed Toploader.

[Runner1972]

some days I think had i done that i'd be better off.... but I wanted overdrive.

I don't remember were i seen it, think maybe an episode of roadkill were they bolted on a overdrive to the back of a Dodge.

[Shelty]

That sucks I thought you had a turbo 350 in the wagon. Most of the local transmission guys in town here don't even want to be bothered with rebuilding anymore.

some days I think had i done that i'd be better off.... but I wanted overdrive.

[Runner1972]

I looked into that, I didnt see one that was less than 1800 bucks. main reason I want to stay with what I have got inside the trans is I need an 82-86 case, my 300 dollar valvebody thats brand new wont work with a later trans.

That sucks I thought you had a turbo 350 in the wagon. Most of the local transmission guys in town here don't even want to be bothered with rebuilding anymore.

[Shelty]

For $900 you can get a trans from Summit last i looked.

I looked into that, I didnt see one that was less than 1800 bucks. main reason I want to stay with what I have got inside the trans is I need an 82-86 case, my 300 dollar valvebody thats brand new wont work with a later trans.

[Runner1972]

For $900 you can get a trans from Summit last i looked.

[Shelty]

ok, so here is the plan, I am talking to someone who can rebuild my transmission, basically move all my parts over to a new case, replace the clutches with some better ones while its apart, maybe new bands too, parts and labor with a new case will be around 900 bucks. He said he can get me an 82-86 case so everything works.

right now, thats the most cost effective option vs, trying to find another transmission with a questionable history, or getting a TCI street fighter, or swapping to manual, which would be even more expensive, even if I went with just a Muncie or a Super T-10 vs a T-5 or a T56 or an prohibitively expensive TKO 500. As cool as a stick would be in this car, its a factory auto car, and it would be less painful just to keep it an automatic. the first two options are expensive cheapest ranging around 900 bucks for just the box, no bellhousing, one guy wanting 600 for one thats apart, and Id need to still get all the supporting parts, a T-5 wouldnt live behind my engine for long, and a T56 would require a good deal of work on the tunnel that I dont want to do. and the cheapest Ive seen a TKO is 2500 bucks... sans bellhousing at that.

now I just need to save up, and deal with pulling the broken trans out, which will be fun, not.

[Shelty]

One thing I need to figure out if the cases for the 700r4 is the same throughout the years, if they are, there are several empty cases on ebay for like 100 bucks, then I can have a transmission shop move everything over to the new case.

[Deaf Bob]

I'll bet!
Had a Lincoln Mark 7 for a derby car.. Took the tranny out cuz it went bad before I got it.. It was pre-derbied, the other was bad.. Had a tranny guy go over the one I pulled out 4 times before I junked it.. Motor/tranny went in a project 64 Ford pu.. Every derby that tranny needed work!
I stick with GM now..

[Shelty]

Big car, some power, some traction, manual will be fun..
Talk to Scott, he put a manual in his.. Beats the wee out of it on the road course too..
I've got a Muncie in my 57 Sedan Delivery.. Not as heavy as your yacht. I row..

Its an Idea, There are a few Muncies and super T10s on the local craigslist for sale.

im just grasping at straws right now. just trying to figure out what to do with this turd.... this was a huge setback

[Deaf Bob]

Big car, some power, some traction, manual will be fun..
Talk to Scott, he put a manual in his.. Beats the wee out of it on the road course too..
I've got a Muncie in my 57 Sedan Delivery.. Not as heavy as your yacht. I row..

[Shelty]

well, after doing some more digging.... turns out that there was more that went wrong than initially thought.



im guessing it was a flaw in the metal that caused this to crack off like that. so, now I need a new transmission. no way that can be repaired.

so here are my options, the valvebody kit I have is for the pre 87 transmission, in 87 they changed the internals a bit, adding an auxiliary solenoid among other changes.

1. find another 84-86 700r4, rebuild if necessary, reinstall the TCI valvebody parts.
1.5 find a case, pull my broken trans out, and have everything transferred over to the new case
2. bite the bullet and drop major coin for a TCI streetfighter transmission, which has the same valvebody internals and isnt much more expensive than the streetrodder. figure if I go that route, might as well go all the way...then sell what I can from the old trans to recoup the cost.
3. Order a rebuilt trans from Monster transmission, much cheaper (call first to find out if I can get one that is pre 87 so I can reuse my valvebody)
4. ditch the 700r4 all together and get a 4L60/70/80 and bite the bullet on the controller
5. to hell with autos, and convert the car to a manual transmission, which would be an undertaking.
6. put the grungy powerglide back in the car, I dont want to do this, as most of the old linkage parts are broken or now missing, id need another driveshaft and I dont want to take a step backwards....
7. sell it, buy a honda and cry