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  • STINEY
    Dirt Path Taker
    • Dec 2007
    • 8613

    #1891



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    Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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    • STINEY
      Dirt Path Taker
      • Dec 2007
      • 8613

      #1892
      Ok, got code 33. MAP sensor signal voltage too high (low vacuum) Truck seems peppy enough for a 4.3 if that has any bearing.
      Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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      • SuperBuickGuy
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Jan 2008
        • 32063

        #1893
        GM OBD Trouble Code 33


        MAP Sensor Circuit Error (Signal High Indicating Low Vacuum)

        The ECM uses the Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor as an indication of engine load. High voltage would indicate low engine vacuum and higher engine load. Low voltage would indicate high engine vacuum and lower engine load. The ECM uses the information from this sensor to help calculate fuel delivery and spark timing.
        Fault Code Description
        • 33 - MAP sensor circuit error (signal high indicating low vacuum)
        Symptoms
        • Poor engine performance
        • Engine running rich (too much fuel, black smoke from exhaust)
        Common Problems
        • GM MAP sensors do not commonly fail
        • Due to erratic engine vacuum, other engine performance problems can cause a code 33 to set


        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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        • STINEY
          Dirt Path Taker
          • Dec 2007
          • 8613

          #1894
          During the change from closed to open loop, does the ECM look for MAP sensor input?

          In other words, could an incorrect value from that sensor cause the computer to change course and revert to the previous fuel map - causing what we term a "stutter"?
          Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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          • SuperBuickGuy
            No Life Outside BangShift.com
            • Jan 2008
            • 32063

            #1895
            hard to tell from here - is the stutter a lean condition? I think I'd check all the other stuff - spark plugs, wires, cap first. I know that a shorted wire will throw a similar code. After that, you can test the MAP sensor http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/gm/...e-map-sensor-1

            the tl;dr is sure, it could - but I wouldn't start there because they are pretty robust.
            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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            • STINEY
              Dirt Path Taker
              • Dec 2007
              • 8613

              #1896
              Just to be clear.......I'm not the worried in the least on my truck. It runs fine, especially for a beater.

              Just thought it would maybe help diagnosis your issue - since they are very similar ECMs.

              My stutter is very infrequent after warmed up, but is very predictable during that first couple miles after a cold start. How would you describe yours?








              Of all the paths you take in life - make sure a few of them are dirt.

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              • SuperBuickGuy
                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                • Jan 2008
                • 32063

                #1897
                how to describe? as an ignition issue

                Not a lot has been happening - most of the major problems have been solved so I've been dealing with other, non-car stuff....


                but first I complained about how I need to break down the sidewalls a bit... this is 3 psi


                needed to add a light to the dash... which I did

                and then while I was cleaning up a hole, tore the wire out of the light .... picture when I get its replacement

                finally purchased a distributor wrench....


                this is for my wife's jeep - which I would have worked on tonight had she not been out doing SAR stuff....


                blanking Mr. gasket clamp.... chromed aluminum clamp - no wonder it wasn't holding. First it had too much material so it wouldn't clamp at all... then I ground it down and it wouldn't hold after a bit...


                it is clamped now. I've solved my Staun problem (18 psi instead of 8 psi deflation) with the purchase of an ARB deflator (and I have spare needles) and I got a better hose for filling.... this weekend will be a good run
                Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                • silver_bullet
                  No Life Outside BangShift.com
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 24196

                  #1898
                  so the stutter was caused by the dizzy slipping out of time?? Had that issue with a Galaxie back in 86...
                  Patrick & Tammy
                  - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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                  • SuperBuickGuy
                    No Life Outside BangShift.com
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 32063

                    #1899
                    yep, because of a cheap, chinesium hold down
                    Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                    • silver_bullet
                      No Life Outside BangShift.com
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 24196

                      #1900
                      a good reminder to clean and inspect the mating surfaces as well... I've had these slip because the gasket was oil soaked or missing altogether...I've also roughed up the edges of the clamp for more bite...
                      Patrick & Tammy
                      - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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                      • SuperBuickGuy
                        No Life Outside BangShift.com
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 32063

                        #1901
                        steering issue is fixed. drove it tonight at it works very well. the fix was bracing the box and the panhard bar. It still has some throttle-induced understeer but since the fix would be making the panhard parallel with the axle - and the down side of that is increased bump-steer; I'll take the lesser of two evils. Especially since the lesser only happens noticeably when accelerating from a stop sign while turning (and right is worse then left).... time to get onto the next project and work on beating this thing like it owes me money. (thank you Finnegan for that quip).
                        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                        • DanStokes
                          Ancient LSR Guy
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 28472

                          #1902
                          There's another cure for the throttle steering - simply reduce the engine power!

                          That probably ain't gonna happen.....

                          Dan

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                          • SuperBuickGuy
                            No Life Outside BangShift.com
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 32063

                            #1903
                            No hablo "reduce power"
                            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                            • SuperBuickGuy
                              No Life Outside BangShift.com
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 32063

                              #1904
                              what a glorious day - got cut short because the alternator stopped working, but still.... it was a point and shoot day in the snow (meaning wherever I wanted to go.. no problem)


                              normally speaking, there's a frost line on the hills - not this time, so there wasn't the slog through the cascade cement...






                              got a little snow up its nose


                              then air up


                              then breakfast at the cafe - an all-you-can-eat.... I like all you can eat


                              Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                              • Deaf Bob
                                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 19255

                                #1905
                                Looks like a wonderful day!
                                Sure beats mud, altho cold!
                                Bet it feels good to drive!

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