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  • #61
    it probably didn't look this good when it was new.
    You aren't kidding. My Dad restored a 1927 International speed truck, we went to Nebraska to get a parts truck and when he got it back and started comparing cabs, it looked like every one must have been either hand built or built by different guys who had the same general concept but different ideas on the execution. Horrible! Granted, farmers back then probably weren't too picky since it beat the hell out of hauling with a wagon.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by hauen View Post

      You aren't kidding. My Dad restored a 1927 International speed truck, we went to Nebraska to get a parts truck and when he got it back and started comparing cabs, it looked like every one must have been either hand built or built by different guys who had the same general concept but different ideas on the execution. Horrible! Granted, farmers back then probably weren't too picky since it beat the hell out of hauling with a wagon.

      The old ones are a nice challenge....to say the least. Here's a 1918 International that we helped make new front fenders for at Gatormeet a few years back.

















      Here's the Biederman at the show in Lexington KY last week for the 2018 ATHS Convention.








      Last edited by MP&C; June 7, 2018, 04:46 AM.
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      • #63
        I had an owners manual for that international.... donated it to the Iowa 80 Trucking Museum in Walcott Iowa.... Amazed to see that you worked on one!
        Patrick & Tammy
        - Long Haulin' 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014...Addicting isn't it...??

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        • #64

          An update on the Biederman truck, John came across a donor truck with an authentic 1947 Galion dump body, which matches his 47 Biederman perfectly.





          It needed some repair work on it but it was a good one to start with. He took it to a local shop and had the tailgate rebuilt, added a cab guard and replaced the floor. It will show a few authentic dents when finished but he says he prefers that to a new edition body on an old truck.











          These next pictures really show why we need to add the skirt between the cab and running board.








          The skirt will rest on top of the running board flange, with a rubber edge trim to save some paint rubbing. Here's our sample bend that will rest on top of the flange. (it's shown upside-down...)





          The dump body and other remaining parts will be also be painted blue, he plans to paint this spring.
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          • #65
            Been tripping over the 8’ linear slide on the Lennox for the past couple months, time to knock out these Biederman skirts so we can break the linear slide down. This will likely be the last Metalshaping done on this machine before it goes out the door and the replacement comes in.





            These two bends were done in the magnetic brake, the final fold for the U-shape is done in the Lennox using these dies..








            Comparison





            Here's the folding process...


            The U-shaped detail will sit on top of the running board rear flange, with rubber edge trim between the two to save a bit of paint. The








            Next we took them to a local machine shop, Triton Defense, to hem the U-shape. They used a knife blade in the press brake.





            The only thing left for these is to fold the top flange for bolting to the underside of the cab, fit, and paint.
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            • #66
              Is there anything you guys can't make from scratch? And make it look incredible?

              Amazing skills there.

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              • #67
                Thanks Andy!



                John stopped by the shop last night so we could fit up the running board skirts on the Biederman.







                I know he will be glad to close off this gaping hole.







                After taking some measurements we got the top flange folded over using the magnetic brake. The flange will be bolted to the underside of the cab to support the weight as we will leave about a 1/4" or so gap above the running board to allow for frame flex.















                Rivet Nuts installed under the cab...











                The rubber edge trim is our attempt to keep the paint from rubbing off, and these are held in place using weatherstrip adhesive.







                The dump bed had been painted over when John bought it, but closer inspection showed where some additional layers of paint in the hand painted lettering, "Phone 60" had staved off surface rust in it's previous life and was still visible...



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                • #68
                  The rubber will also keep it from flapping and eliminate any rattles. Nice work, again.
                  Ed, Mary, & 'Earl'
                  HRPT LongHaulers, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.


                  Inside every old person is a young person wondering, "what the hell happened?"

                  The man at the top of the mountain didn't fall there. -Vince Lombardi

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                  • #69

                    To finish off the running board skirts, some epoxy primer was brushed into the hem fold, given a couple days to cure, and then seam sealer added to keep out the moisture..












                    ….then another dose of epoxy over the seam sealer, and everything primed.












                    I didn't get pictures of spraying the blue, so the finals will have to do. John is tying up the loose ends, the running board skirts were installed the other night.....











                    The dump body has been painted and he should get that installed today or tomorrow.








                    He will get it loaded up around Wednesday for the trip to Macungie PA for the truck show this coming weekend.
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                    • #70
                      John has the Biederman loaded up and is headed up to Macungie PA today for the truck show this weekend.





                      This is the "tow" vehicle with Ian Watson, who is visiting from Melbourne Australia.






                      Some pics from the Macungie show, photo credit Pat66, Stovebolter






                      Last edited by MP&C; June 20, 2019, 08:19 AM.
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                      • #71
                        Once again, perfection is beneath your standards!

                        Dan

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                        • #72
                          Thanks Dan!



                          The Biederman truck we did some rust repairs and metal fabrication on found its way onto the cover of the latest issue of Wheels of Time. It has a feature article on the restoration John did on the truck, as well as a follow up article on the company history. Pretty neat to read, honored to have played a small part in helping preserve an example of this rare truck for future generations.






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                          Photo credit: ATHS Wheels of Time
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