Which engine to choose for Chevelle?

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  • wyrmrider
    FNG
    • Jun 2012
    • 8

    #16
    I only built one 454 BBC 66 Chevelle (early chassis with smaller engine bay) BBC is a tight fit (bunt as bad as Nova)
    Oval port heads ported by (the late) Kay Sissell (30 degree intake seats)
    Jones hyd short duration high lift cam
    reasonable compression- with tight quench (.030)
    worked really well on the street (was T400 auto trans with just a Transgo shift Kit and B&B converter (that's braised and bearings)(and balanced)big cooler with 1/2 inch lines)
    I've used lots of T`10's and super T10s and they will not hold up to racing with a big block, neither will the stock rear end
    Muncies are getting really expensive and they do not hold up that well either
    If handling is a concern an Iron BBC is heavy
    Suspension needs a rework with pieces from Global West (San Bernadino Ca) or similar
    Brakes also need an upgrade if you are going to push it
    (you can run 14" rotors with 17" wheels
    Doing it today I'd go with the much lighter modern motor, EFI, inverse radius hyd roller cam from Jones, beehive springs, pocket port the heads (high ratio rockers if available, Viton seals)
    -less expensive to build and make (surprisingly to me given the funny ports) great power
    you still have to spend money on suspension, brakes, wheels if you are going to drive it on twisty roads or mountains
    Use only genuine Dana Spicer U-joints or have AAA
    Use a smaller high torque starter- the big ones are a real pain to change

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    • oj
      Hero BangShifter
      • Jan 2011
      • 270

      #17
      This 632 fit pretty good. It is gettin headers made right now at kooks.
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      A Carter Carb Shop, sales and service

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      • Barry Donovan
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Jul 2009
        • 16928

        #18
        saying the LS has been done to death is absurd. thatis modern evolution chance for classics.

        I can't answer a 1, 2, or 3 choice. research for the lemons, most likely the early ones.

        just the firing order getting out of the damn steering shaft is a reason to go LS for me..but there is more. the main caps, choice of aluminum. A 66 chevelle would love it.
        EFI bolt on, cams...
        Previously boxer3main
        the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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        • CDMBill
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Oct 2007
          • 4357

          #19
          Ford GT crate motor, go faster be different!
          Drag Week 2006 & 2012 - Winner Street Race Big Block Naturally Aspirated - R/U 2007 Broke DW '05 and Drag Weekend '15 Coincidence?

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          • Monk
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Nov 2007
            • 6722

            #20
            Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
            LS has been done to death too. Put new tech on old tech. Port fuel injection, turbos, 6 speed on a 468.
            Yep........thinking along the same lines.
            You'll like that 6 speed on PT.........I've got a TKO 600 and turn about 2,000 rpms doing 70 mph.
            Engine combo would be killer.
            Thom

            "The object is to keep your balls on the table and knock everybody else's off..."

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            • 1988montecarloss 2
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Apr 2011
              • 508

              #21
              Originally posted by CDMBill View Post
              Ford GT crate motor, go faster be different!
              spend $20,000+ dollars!!!!!
              formerly 1988montecarloss, 3198 posts
              http://bangshift.com/forum/member.ph...88montecarloss

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              • Big Dave
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Jun 2011
                • 7595

                #22
                I'm reading these comments and thanks so much for them. I haven't decided what direction to in yet. I've got to get a lift installed in my shop and once that's done it will be time to get down to business. Much to ponder in the meantime. But I already know that the entire suspension will have to be updated. As the build begins I'll continue to look for suggstions.
                Long Haul Gang 2011,12,13,14,15,16,17,19
                The older I get The Faster I was!

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                • Russell
                  Legendary BangShifter
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6496

                  #23
                  Lol how about a LT1 w/ 200 shot!
                  http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                  1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

                  PB 60' 1.49
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                  • oj
                    Hero BangShifter
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 270

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Big Dave View Post
                    I'm reading these comments and thanks so much for them. I haven't decided what direction to in yet. I've got to get a lift installed in my shop and once that's done it will be time to get down to business. Much to ponder in the meantime. But I already know that the entire suspension will have to be updated. As the build begins I'll continue to look for suggstions.
                    I've pretty well been bumper to bumper on the '66: 9" rear, Hotchkiss suspension & coil-overs; detroit speed tube control arms, dropped spindle & swaybar on the front; detroit speed power steering box; billet specialties; fabricated radiator; tremec 6spd; mcloed 2disc, quicktimes sfi can; wilwood brakes; vintage air underdash; etcetc
                    If you have questions about a product or installation give me a shout. I spent about a year and a half adding all this stuff into the '66, after each major piece of work the car was put back together, debugged and driven for a while. I just stuffed the engine in it and on Monday it got to Kooks' for headers, they are doing stainless out the back and should have it next week. Don't ask about the hood - that has yet to be made.
                    A Carter Carb Shop, sales and service

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                    • Big Dave
                      Legendary BangShifter
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 7595

                      #25
                      Thanks for your offer oj. I'm sure we'll have many conversations. I'm meeting with Jeff Skinner of Engines Power Systems next week. He's suppose to be the LS guru in my part of the country. I plan to have the drivetrain all in and working properly before moving on the the suspension. If everything goes well I plan to take the Chevelle on PT next year. Again thanks for the offer.
                      Long Haul Gang 2011,12,13,14,15,16,17,19
                      The older I get The Faster I was!

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                      • BOOOGHAR
                        Legendary BangShifter
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6442

                        #26
                        LS1TECH.COM will have all your answers
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                        • bishir
                          Superhero BangShifter
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 1036

                          #27
                          You'll regret the BB if you're building it for power tour type drives. Hello 10 mpg and a quart of oil every two or three fill ups...
                          Been there... Though you can't beat the sound...

                          I've pondered swapping my BB out for an lq4 or lq9 for sometime but it just doesn't seem right. An aftermarket efi and a gear vendor unit would make drive ability much better and retain the period look, but definitely at a cost...
                          Powertour off/on since 2002
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                          • Bucky67
                            Superhero BangShifter
                            • May 2010
                            • 2326

                            #28
                            I have a 468 in Jade and I Love it!! I wouldn't go LS if someone paid me. Well, I guess it all depends on how much.... Ha Ha.

                            But in all seriousness, the 468 is backed by a TKO600 built by Keisler Engineering and I Love that combo. The only thing I wish I would have done was go with an EFI set up instead of carburated. Don't get me wrong, I Love the HP870 sitting on top of my Performer RPM Air-Gap Intake, but it'd be nice to just to start Jade up and go. Not only that, but fuel mileage would improve slightly.

                            I average around 15 MPG on each tank with the best coming in at 17.3. I have 4.10:1 gears out back and I'm running a 18" wheel combo. For me, cruising at 70 MPH is right around 2300 RPM's... For next year's Power Tour, I'm probably going to install 3.73:1 in the 12-bolt.
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                            • Bucky67
                              Superhero BangShifter
                              • May 2010
                              • 2326

                              #29
                              Here are the specs to the BB that I had built:

                              468 Cubic Inches (Dyno’d at 611 HP and 618 FT LBS of TQ Dyno'd by Comp Cams, Memphis TN)
                              • Full MSD Digital Ignition to include a MSD Pro-Billet Distributer (Entire Ignition is custom mounted under the dash)
                              • Holley 4150HP 870 CFM Carburetor (Custom Tuned)
                              • Edelbrock Performer RPM Air-Gap Intake (Ported to match Heads)
                              • Edelbrock Performer RPM Aluminum Heads (Ported & Polished, Gasket Matched)
                              • Edelbrock Performer Aluminum Waterpump
                              • Pete Jackson “Noisy” Geardrive
                              • Speed Pro 10.44 Forged Piston
                              • Comp Cams Hydraulic Roller Cam (Magnum- 278/278 Lift Intake/Exhaust, 232/232 Duration @ .50”, 110 Lobe Seperation)
                              • Comp Cams Hydraulic Lifters, Valve Springs, & Titanium Push Rods
                              • Crane Gold Series Roller Rockers
                              • Custom Hand-Made Tig-Welded Valve Covers
                              • Custom Spectre Dual Plenum Air Intake System (Completely Polished)
                              • Summit Stage II Connecting Rods (Pressed Fit)
                              • Forged Crank (Been completely balanced and hand/machine polished)
                              • Griffin Aluminum Radiator with Electric Fan
                              • Hooker Super Comp Heads- Jet Hot Coated by Nitro Plate in Nashville
                              • Full 3” Flowmaster Exhaust W/ Supper 44 Mufflers
                              Last edited by Bucky67; June 28, 2012, 12:05 PM.
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                              • Buckeye
                                Superhero BangShifter
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 453

                                #30
                                5.3 with twin turbo's 500-600hp with 5k or less and 20+mpg and ac

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