Thinking about taking the plunge - hardware help, please!

[TheSilverBuick]

Randal, I've either missed it, or are you even using a lift pump? I should go read your stuff again, but it's like walking down NYC streets ... I don't want to wind up on the wrong page.

I run the stock mechanical fuel pumps on both my Skylark and the Thunderbird to pump to the surge canister. If Gene's fuel tank has a sump or baffled enough for EFI and doesn't need a surge canister, then he can use the Ford pump in the normal electric pump location, namely low on the frame, or around the same level as the pickup, though I'm sure the electric pump has some lift capacity.

[ls7gto]

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[JeffMcKC]

Randal, thanks for the input. I'm gonna make a junkyard run next Saturday and see what I can find. Will need to create a shopping list.

http://www.wegotused.com/wp-content/...ceList2011.pdf

I use a escort EDIS 36 and 1 wheel on mine works very well behind a balancer to trip off the Crank trigger which is easy to make.

If you pick up a intake its no problem for us to turn it into a EFI intake for you 36.00 for fuel rails and buy some bungs from Mike Crow he has about 200 in a bag LOL I am willing to donate my work on the intake for you. Or anything else to help move it forwards I also have a bypass I would let go real cheap that would mount to the fuel rail.

[milner351]

Jeff - do you use any special technique with the tig to weld the bungs to a cast AL intake?

I know it has to be very clean, but I don't have much experience welding on cast, some guys talk like it's a risk of blowing holes in every old casting you try to strike an arc on, I'm hoping that's 90% wives tale.

[JeffMcKC]

I have had Travis weld mine he has had no issues at all. Clean Clean Clean. Using a Helium based gas helps tons, its like Nitro for fuel, small quick heat. I have been working on my skills.

Its 90% wifes tales

[Schtauffer]

I use a escort EDIS 36 and 1 wheel on mine works very well behind a balancer to trip off the Crank trigger which is easy to make.

If you pick up a intake its no problem for us to turn it into a EFI intake for you 36.00 for fuel rails and buy some bungs from Mike Crow he has about 200 in a bag LOL I am willing to donate my work on the intake for you. Or anything else to help move it forwards I also have a bypass I would let go real cheap that would mount to the fuel rail.

Very generous of you, Jeff! My current intake is a Performer RPM Q-Jet-- would it work to put bungs on that dual plane??

[JeffMcKC]

Yes it could be done, and work very well I would think.

[Deaf Bob]

I run the stock mechanical fuel pumps on both my Skylark and the Thunderbird to pump to the surge canister. If Gene's fuel tank has a sump or baffled enough for EFI and doesn't need a surge canister, then he can use the Ford pump in the normal electric pump location, namely low on the frame, or around the same level as the pickup, though I'm sure the electric pump has some lift capacity.

After the surge canister do you run electric? Probably sounds like a dumb question... I honestly want to know...

[Caveman Tony]

... If Gene's fuel tank has a sump or baffled enough for EFI...

What defines 'baffled enough'?

I'm usually baffled by something or other... sometimes its women, sometimes its beer.

Seriously though... if the tank only has a small baffled area, does that matter? Or does it have to be a certain size to ensure fuel pickup submersion?

[TheSilverBuick]

I run a stock electric Ford pump as my high pressure pump (late-80's F-250, etc).

You'll know if it's baffled enough by no mis-fires or stalling when braking, accelerating or turning when the gas tank gets low. The surge canister method has worked well for me. I've ran the tank down below 2 gallons on numerous occasions with zero effects felt driving the car. Conversely I drove the T-bird for a while without a surge canister and it would start to mis-fire/hesitate on turns once the fuel level got to a 1/4 tank.

[Schtauffer]

Matt Cramer's book came in the mail today. Very very informative and interesting so far.

Doing something like this would run up over my budget, but are there any thoughts on buying used aftermarket setups like these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Small-block-chevy-SBC-MPFI-system-megasquirt-fuel-injection-/300654780366?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item46006bdfce

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edelbrock-Pro-flo-Fuel-injection-system-small-block-chevy-handheld-tune-/290699004355?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43af02c9c3

[JeffMcKC]

I think you can use any carb as a throttle body and a cable driven tps, fuel rails from ebay are 36 bucks, used nascar an fittings from ebay are pretty cheap and so is fuel lines, you can efi a intake easy enough a ford inline pump if mounted by the tank I dont know that you will need a low psi pump. simple MS to start and some Mustang injectors and turn the psi up some.

[STINEY]

On the fuel line thing.......... IS there a new type of flexible fuel line that is acceptable to use for the whole system?

Seems I've heard that the "no more than 12" total of flexible line" rule doesn't apply if using this type of hose?

Is this BS or no? If no, what type of line is acceptable?

[JeffMcKC]

I have never seen a flexable line rule, there is a rubber line rule, but there are rubber lines that will pass I dont trust 45/60 lbs of fuel pressure to push-loc lines. There is also a sheild rule as it goes past the flywheel I run mine thru the frame rail there

[milner351]

I still like hard lines for fuel, but I still sweat copper pipe when I know PEX is easier.

Summit and others offer fuel system "kits" but I think Jeff's got it right with the used nascar ebay stuff. AN fittings are expensive new.