Locations... rumors? anyone?

[JeffMcKC]

Would you like a Kleenex to wipe that bloody nose?

[Russell]

Just imagine if the "secrets" of the miracle "LESS" leak out to Formula One . . . Indianapolis . . . World Superbike . . . . Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters . . . .

It is fun though to see "Government Motors" pushing the most antique highway engine design still produced in the industrialized world on to a pushrodding public that's been dumbed-down since ~1957 by NASCAR and NHRA.

And given Holley's evangelistic shilling for the LESS, there will need to be a lot more global cooling before I'll ever buy anything from 'em again.

I am a ford guy, and the mod motors are great, but they are also huge! The LESS motors are Bangshifty because you can buy the whole lump for less than a set of Al sbf heads and they will fit in nearly any chassie. They just about grow on trees, can be bolted up to nearly any chevy transmission, with out a special bellhouseing. The best sbf bang for the buck that I know of is the Explorer motors (I have 2 foxbodies with them) with a mild cam and bolt ons I am still slower than my friend and his stock LS1 trans am.

I really don't understand why ford changes things that are not broke. why change the bell housing bolt pattern? on the 3/4 truck why change the lug pattern? The reason Chevy has done so well with "hotroders" part interchangeability A 350 is a bolt on for a 305, not so 302-351 and small package. A 350 is easier to fit into a 32 ford than a 302? Sometimes I see why people go to the Darkside.

[38P]

It's 2:10 and it only takes a DIRT CHEAP BBF in a not-so-light weight chassis to run mid 10's!

Corrected it.

BBR's probably got less invested in his whole car than some of the Bow Tie boys spend in Viagra just planning (fantasizing about) theirs

(not . . . mentioning . . . T . . . C. . . . Not . . . mentioning . . . .)

And last time I checked, his BBF wasn't sheding bits and pieces of broken valvetrain across the ex-Confederate states, like some of the small-cube "Government Motors" racers seem to enjoy.

BBR, puts a plate on that car and a little more safety gear, and would probably OWN BB/PA Street Race. Or he dials it back a couple of tenths and dominates Daily Driver. Either way, it's a far sight more interesting . . . and even more frugal . . . than just another GMPP crate mill in a belly-button A-body . . . .

BBR's cheapo plan makes a lot more sense than the hundred or so DW '12 entries that ran slower than 10.56. (including that MORON who brought a months-old 2012 Mustang with a dead nitrous kit . . . .)

[38P]

I am a ford guy, and the mod motors are great, but they are also huge! The LESS motors are Bangshifty because you can buy the whole lump for less than a set of Al sbf heads and they will fit in nearly any chassie.

1. Flatheads are "bangshifty" too, but they're hardly up-to-date. And neither is the antique LESS 2. I'm not sure where you're pricing "Al sbf heads" or LESS engines. 3. Certainly the JY supply of LESS increases every day due to the poor quality of the vehicles in which they were originally installed. 4. Coyote/Mod mills fit into virtually any FoMoCo RWD built since '78, so there's plenty of "room."

The best sbf bang for the buck that I know of is the Explorer motors (I have 2 foxbodies with them) with a mild cam and bolt ons I am still slower than my friend and his stock LS1 trans am.

Let's not blame underachivement on the hardware. Up your game. Most certainly, a nearly stock pushrod 302 is going to give up some to a nearly stock pushrod 5.7/6.0 LESS. But the lead is hardly insurmountable or any reason to change brands.

I really don't understand why ford changes things that are not broke. why change the bell housing bolt pattern? on the 3/4 truck why change the lug pattern? The reason Chevy has done so well with "hotroders" part interchangeability

A valid point that I've written about exensively in the past.

A 350 is a bolt on for a 305, not so 302-351 and small package.

Missing, however, that a 302 will fit places where a bigger mill won't

A 350 is easier to fit into a 32 ford than a 302?

Not anymore. It hasn't been true for at least 15 years. Yet this chestnut of NSRA pro-lawn-chair wisdom lives on

Sometimes I see why people go to the Darkside.

Yeah . . . they're either too lazy and cheap to do it properly . . . or they just worship ghetto tech and government bailouts . . . .

[505sfastest]

So does anyone know where its gonna be?? Mopar!!!!FTR!!

[JeffMcKC]

Nope,, and it will be a while if its like all but last year

[MR P-BODY]

Waiting.... not so patiently ...... come on HRM... some of us need to know

[Dignlif]

Waiting.... not so patiently ...... come on HRM... some of us need to know

and the resto of us WANT to know...

[BBR]

It's 2:10 and it still takes 545 inches of BBF in a light weight chassis to run mid 10's!

Been travelling all afternoon....

Damn, I'm pretty sure I have never bragged on how quick my car is(n't). I know it's an average performer. It is what it is, is low buck and is an effin ball to drive. Now when you survive a drag week with a faster car, you can talk smack, until that time, kilyosef!

Ok. We want locations!!!!!

Oh yeah, car is 3515+ with me, so it's not exactly light.

[MR P-BODY]

BBR... I thought you were the one in the know.... come on man.... give us little guys
just a dribble of what we're in for........................ please.... LOL

[CDMBill]

Been travelling all afternoon....

Damn, I'm pretty sure I have never bragged on how quick my car is(n't). I know it's an average performer. It is what it is, is low buck and is an effin ball to drive. Now when you survive a drag week with a faster car, you can talk smack, until that time, kilyosef!

Ok. We want locations!!!!!

Oh yeah, car is 3515+ with me, so it's not exactly light.

Oh yeah, it is so a tin can. I see your 3515 and raise you 4120.

But, on the other hand I couldn't agree more about the "who ran what times and with cubes" and oh by the way was runner-up in his class. Which means he showed up, and finished, and generally kicked ass. No burn there, just peanut shots from the not been there, not done that gallery. So for those who haven't actually run DW be careful with who you talk sh*t about. Show, finish and then we'll see what ya'll got.

[Dino98T/A]

[38P]

Been travelling all afternoon....

Damn, I'm pretty sure I have never bragged on how quick my car is(n't). I know it's an average performer. It is what it is, is low buck and is an effin ball to drive. Now when you survive a drag week with a faster car, you can talk smack, until that time, kilyosef!

Ok. We want locations!!!!!

Oh yeah, car is 3515+ with me, so it's not exactly light.

Gee, Burrbs, you didn't think my defense 'o your whip was good enough? Only in the rarefied world of extreme hot rodding is 10.56 an "average" performance. 98% of all the streetable hot rods build over the past 112 years were slower than that. And I'll venture to say most readers of this board have never even ridden in a 10-second car, much less built or driven one.


On a different note . . . "winning groin thrusts" are about the only exercise some of us get during the off season . . . .

[38P]

Professor Internet looks a lot like my shop cat (without the mortar board). . . .

[BBR]

Haha Dino that's pretty funny.