Well CarCraft Does it Again........

[skullbucket]

Seriously, with the fuel injection kits coming out and when the prices go down, I hate to say it but I can't see a reason to ever run a carb again.
I definitely would change over the vette for the kit, safe fuel supply, instant starting and idling, tuning ability.
It gives you more time to polish your chrome valve covers.

[TC]

Seriously, with the fuel injection kits coming out and when the prices go down, I hate to say it but I can't see a reason to ever run a carb again.
I definitely would change over the vette for the kit, safe fuel supply, instant starting and idling, tuning ability.
It gives you more time to polish your chrome valve covers.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually drive cars with carbs........... That monte I just picked up drove just fine..........

[skullbucket]

Sometimes I wonder if people actually drive cars with carbs........... That monte I just picked up drove just fine..........

Its so nice to reach in the window and turn the key and the engine starts in the morning and if you want you can just take off without chugging and bog.

[TC]

Its so nice to reach in the window and turn the key and the engine starts in the morning and if you want you can just take off without chugging and bog.

Every carbed motor I've ever had did the same thing.........I actually used to brag about, just reached through the window hit the key and it started right up.......But then I like Holley's..........

[Ron Ward]

Alex, have you ever started a car in -20 degree weather?

[SpiderGearsMan]

BWAHAHAHAHA
Carbs win EVERYTIME

[Scott Liggett]

I bet that engine with the efi would idle better and have much better drivability on the street than the carbs.

[CDMBill]

I realize this will result in the usual sh%tstorm, but I'm willing to bet that there will be be more EFI winners in this this years Drag Week heads up N/A classes than those running carbs. $100 plus dinner and drinks at the venue of my choosing in Tulsa after winners are announced.

Money talks, BS walks, as it were.

[BluLightning]

BWAHAHAHAHA
Carbs win EVERYTIME

Unless you race in Sprint Cup!

[dieselgeek]

NO shitstorm here, I'm not surprised by their results at all.


On the "high end" (max power efforts) you can't just toss any old EFI configuration at a motor and expect it to magically exceed what you can do with a carburetor.

It's like a musical instrument - you can swap out a kid's "starter" violin with a $30,000 pro instrument, but that doesn't mean the kid's suddenly going to become a virtuoso. All the EFI does is give you the OPTION of doing better than you'd do with a carburetor.

I've been doing a lot of carb+EFI comparisons. The best test is to compare an optimized carb and manifold, against an optimized EFI intake and manifold. In that case, you're going to find that the EFI will beat the carb at peak, average, and just about everything else, *if you spent the time and effort to optimze the system* - this includes finding optimum injector location and placement, PHASING of the injection event, and individual cylinder trims to make sure all 8 cylinders are working with the same mixture thus making the most power.

If carbs "won all the time" then you'd see them on today's engines that are going for the highest power per cube: sport motorcycles. If they were great at atomizing and distributing fuel, then they'd be good enough for emissions. Carbs are fine for 90% of the population out there so, they'll be around for a long time.

On our Engine Masters project, the EFI intake absolutely buries the best single or dual plane carb'd combos (competition legal or not). Meanwhile, the 4-weber IDA carb version of our EMC engine closes that gap a little bit, but still doesn't beat Nick's optimized intake.

So, I don't really care how an entry level EFI test worked for magazine guys who probably don't have the hardware and experience to show how and why EFI is better than a carburetor. Stick to carburetors if that's your thing. But in the end, if you are looking for max power, data that allows you to find the knife edge tuneup, or perhaps you seek ultimate drivability and compensation for large air density changes while operating, then EFI is probably what you need.