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  • 38P
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 5738

    #61
    Originally posted by Joe Barry View Post
    I agree with you completely, but before I build a purpose built car to bring to this event I want to make sure that going forward they will be excepted. Right now im 3800lbs ,I think at 2600lbs I just might get in the sixes.
    We'll all be cheering when that happens!


    (I'm certain all of the serious Unlimited racers already know the following . . .

    But the bright side of "the maths" is that the extra aerodynamic loads of running a vintage shoebox at 200 m.p.h. are likely only in the neighborhood of ~ 200-250 h.p., (virtually all of which are in the last second or so of a high six-second pass) so there's arguably not that much to be gained with a swoopy late model body . . .

    Power-to-weight, on the other hand, affects the entire run. 3,800 lbs theoretically takes ~ 2,500 h.p. to accelerate to over 200 m.p.h.

    The same power in a 2,600 lb car (excluding aerodynamic effects) is theoretically around the 230s. Thus, even with the extra aerodynamic loads, if all the other things go well, solid sixes are quite possible.

    Of course, theory and equations have never won a single drag race)

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    • Joe Barry
      Hero BangShifter
      • Sep 2009
      • 296

      #62
      Originally posted by The Outsider View Post
      We'll all be cheering when that happens!


      (I'm certain all of the serious Unlimited racers already know the following . . .

      But the bright side of "the maths" is that the extra aerodynamic loads of running a vintage shoebox at 200 m.p.h. are likely only in the neighborhood of ~ 200-250 h.p., (virtually all of which are in the last second or so of a high six-second pass) so there's arguably not that much to be gained with a swoopy late model body . . .

      Power-to-weight, on the other hand, affects the entire run. 3,800 lbs theoretically takes ~ 2,500 h.p. to accelerate to over 200 m.p.h.

      The same power in a 2,600 lb car (excluding aerodynamic effects) is theoretically around the 230s. Thus, even with the extra aerodynamic loads, if all the other things go well, solid sixes are quite possible.

      Of course, theory and equations have never won a single drag race)


      Very true but the nice thing about these aerodynamic cars they have front over hang thats above 40" plus inches which is going to help with the et which is what they use to average.

      And trust me I know about riders, my passenger wouldnt even get back in the car with me after he spun it out in the rain in 2011, and when I had the Hot Rod guy with me I dont think he could of been happier to get out of my car. I myself I offered bribes to let someone else drive my car to allow me to ride in anything that I can actually hear my self breath, but no takers yet.
      Last edited by Joe Barry; March 5, 2013, 09:26 AM.

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      • lun40119
        Superhero BangShifter
        • Jan 2011
        • 1564

        #63
        Originally posted by Joe Barry View Post
        Very true but the nice thing about these aerodynamic cars they have front over hang thats above 40" plus inches which is going to help with the et which is what they use to average.

        And trust me I know about riders, my passenger wouldnt even get back in the car with me after he spun it out in the rain in 2011, and when I had the Hot Rod guy with me I dont think he could of been happier to get out of my car. I myself I offered bribes to let someone else drive my car to allow me to ride in anything that I can actually hear my self breath, but no takers yet.
        You.....you need to get yourself a quiet "Granny Ride" like mine. Conversations are nice and pleasant....
        Team Clueless
        1st Place SB/NA DW12
        2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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        • TomV8
          BangShifter
          • Jan 2011
          • 118

          #64
          Originally posted by Joe Barry View Post
          Very true but the nice thing about these aerodynamic cars they have front over hang thats above 40" plus inches which is going to help with the et which is what they use to average.

          And trust me I know about riders, my passenger wouldnt even get back in the car with me after he spun it out in the rain in 2011, and when I had the Hot Rod guy with me I dont think he could of been happier to get out of my car. I myself I offered bribes to let someone else drive my car to allow me to ride in anything that I can actually hear my self breath, but no takers yet.
          I would love to drive your car for a leg if it would work out.
          See all in Sept Tom

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          • lun40119
            Superhero BangShifter
            • Jan 2011
            • 1564

            #65
            Mustangs Suck Tom.......Jusayin......

            See you in Sept....
            Last edited by lun40119; March 5, 2013, 10:28 AM.
            Team Clueless
            1st Place SB/NA DW12
            2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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            • TomV8
              BangShifter
              • Jan 2011
              • 118

              #66
              Originally posted by lun40119 View Post
              Mustangs Suck Tom.......Jusayin......

              See you in Sept....
              Why do think I want to trade for a Chevy?

              Tom

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              • lun40119
                Superhero BangShifter
                • Jan 2011
                • 1564

                #67
                Originally posted by TomV8 View Post
                Why do think I want to trade for a Chevy?

                Tom
                If I were you I would.......
                Team Clueless
                1st Place SB/NA DW12
                2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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                • JeffMcKC
                  Legendary BangShifter
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 7024

                  #68
                  Jake you can't "Un-Ring the Bell", your "Epic Jake" besides my junk is slow and broken most of the time.........
                  2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
                  First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
                  2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
                  2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!

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                  • lun40119
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1564

                    #69
                    Originally posted by JeffMcKC View Post
                    Jake you can't "Un-Ring the Bell", your "Epic Jake" besides my junk is slow and broken most of the time.........
                    Not sure what you are talking about........here she is.....rings/hone/bearings.

                    Team Clueless
                    1st Place SB/NA DW12
                    2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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                    • lun40119
                      Superhero BangShifter
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1564

                      #70
                      Remind me to bitch slap Finnegan in the Tech Line......
                      Team Clueless
                      1st Place SB/NA DW12
                      2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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                      • JeffMcKC
                        Legendary BangShifter
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 7024

                        #71
                        Don’t make the mistake of thinking the racers in this class aren’t trying to keep their plans a secret just because they aren’t racing a heads-up category. There probably won’t be any towels covering the engines of Daily Drivers in the Drag Week registration line like Jake Stelter is threatening to do to his SB/NA Chevelle (Hi, Jake!) but that doesn’t mean that they, too, aren’t paranoid about the rest of the cars

                        Read more: http://blogs.hotrod.com/drag-week-13...#ixzz2MhHlF5R3
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                        Jake Stelter says he’ll be back in his Chevelle with something “epic” and “special” between the framerails in the SB/NA class. Given that he spun his 23-degree headed small-block into 8,000 rpm territory last year, we can only assume that his most “epic” and “special” engine will make at least 2 hp per cubic inch and have a tool steel camshaft in the tunnel for longevity. The question is will it live and finish Drag Week? More importantly will he deny this rumor and bitch slap us in the registration line for starting it?

                        Read more: http://blogs.hotrod.com/drag-week-46...#ixzz2MhI9xV3t
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                        Jake OOoops
                        Last edited by JeffMcKC; March 5, 2013, 11:58 AM.
                        2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
                        First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
                        2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
                        2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!

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                        • lun40119
                          Superhero BangShifter
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1564

                          #72
                          We all know you can go 9's on 6.5 cylinders.......so 8's are a definate possibility. All I could muster up was a 9.89 last year. That's all I've got.

                          You are the "Class Killer"!!!
                          Team Clueless
                          1st Place SB/NA DW12
                          2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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                          • lun40119
                            Superhero BangShifter
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1564

                            #73
                            Back with something "Epic" and "Special" between..........wait what?
                            Team Clueless
                            1st Place SB/NA DW12
                            2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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                            • 38P
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5738

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Joe Barry View Post
                              I myself I offered bribes to let someone else drive my car to allow me to ride in anything that I can actually hear my self breath, but no takers yet.
                              That's shocking! I'd think they'd be lining up for that opportunity.

                              On the other hand, it'd be a very short list of people I'd trust with any of the 200 m.p.h. Unlimited cars on the street. And the stress of driving somebody else's $100,000+ race car in traffic (even in the dry) would be fairly daunting. Besides, I suspect DF would take a dim view of "in transit" car swaps (that "no support vehicle" thing).

                              That does raise a couple questions for the serious "class" car competitors, though . . .

                              1. Are most of the "class" car competitors using a co-driver for the stages between tracks?
                              2. And do these street-only relief drivers share in the expenses, or do you have to pay 'em?

                              (I suspect the crew/"in transit" relief driver role would yield 80-90% of the DW fun for most Bangshifters . . . and at a lower cost in time and money than actually competing)

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                              • LAGNAF
                                Superhero BangShifter
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 749

                                #75
                                my Dad, who rides with me, has offered several times in the past couple years to drive...

                                I respectfully declined..... not that I dont trust him.. but he doesn't drive as well as he used to, and I don't want anyone hurt..

                                This is in my slow truck, I can't imagine something FAST......
                                Dan, Co-Pilot Drag Week 06
                                Drag Week '11 just Me and my Dad in my 53 Chevy, which was his Dads old truck
                                Drag Week '12 plus one day...Me and Dad in my 53 again....
                                Drag Week 2013 with my father in law.. New BEST ET/MPH 11.87@112

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