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  • NewEnglandRaceFan
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    • Jun 2013
    • 2991

    #1381
    wonder if the 77-96 b body parts swap in easy.. or the 73-76

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    • squirrel
      Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
      • Nov 2007
      • 19334

      #1382
      If they did, we would have heard about it...
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      • ImpalaSam
        Hero BangShifter
        • Nov 2007
        • 214

        #1383
        The C3 vette spindle is supposed to be the same as the 65-70 B-body. Maybe look for a vette
        hub?

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        • CTX-SLPR
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Jan 2008
          • 6011

          #1384
          Originally posted by NewEnglandRaceFan View Post
          wonder if the 77-96 b body parts swap in easy.. or the 73-76
          It's a SET3/SET5 bearing combo which is large car so the 77-96 stuff won't work as it's a SET3/SET6 combo. The 71-76 B-body uses the same bearings but the rotor offset is almost assuredly totally different. I'm also doubting the spindles would bolt in as well.

          This looks promising, I found it on www.car-part.com

          1970
          Hub
          Chevy Caprice (1979 Down)
          OK 051395 $15 Mid City Auto Supply USA-NE(Hastings) 1-402-462-5121

          About the only thing I can think of otherwise is to go to Coleman Racing and try to piece together something using stuff like:
          http://www.colemanracing.com/Hub-Alu...ala-P4146.aspx or http://www.colemanracing.com/Hub-Ste...ala-P4144.aspx for hubs
          and get a semi-custom rotor (http://www.colemanracing.com/Brake-R...-32-P4246.aspx) to match the offset.

          Expensive I know but it does give you a definate parts chain.
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          • Scott Liggett
            No Life Outside BangShift.com
            • Oct 2007
            • 21561

            #1385
            Originally posted by milner351 View Post
            aha - sorry I didn't catch that. bummer. It's a bit of a tough call to fix that hub given the safety implications - I'm sure JB weld around the outside of the bearing race would hold - the question is for how long. Another option is to set the race in place and peen the hub with several carefully placed chisel hits around the circumference to squeeze the race in the bore - again - not ideal but may get you by for a while until you can find a better junkyard hub without breaking the bank. I've seen farmers fix equipment bearings with these methods with pretty good durability - but it' wasn't on a front wheel!

            OUCH

            http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-69-70-Ch...3b932e&vxp=mtr
            I was actually about to jump all over these until I read the ad a bit closer.

            Restoring a '69-'70 Chevrolet Passenger? Don't miss this opportunity to buy a PAIR of genuine GM NOS Front Wheel Hubs. They come with their original GM boxes as shown. We are selling these as a PAIR - one is 3988886 and the other is its replacement number 3960228. Catalog information:
            •Group Number: 6.307 - Hub, Front Wheel
            •Part Number: 3988886 (Replaced 3960228 12-71) - with Bolt - 2 Required
            •Applications for Chevrolet:
            ◦1969-1970 Passenger (exc. Disc Brake)
            ■Passenger Includes: Impala - Bel Air - Biscayne - Caprice


            My old suspension supplier in LA has come through with a used disc brake hub with good races. $120 plus shipping. I would have to wait nearly a week to get it.
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            • Scott Liggett
              No Life Outside BangShift.com
              • Oct 2007
              • 21561

              #1386
              Originally posted by Russell View Post
              Is there an easy retro fit from a late model? just replace the whole spindle, hub, rotor, caliper.

              Not sure if this will work on your car. http://www.chevelles.com/forums/arch.../t-107745.html
              I could go to the junkyard, pull off spindles and hubs off a drum brake car for $150, then spend another $500 on a retrofit disc brake kit for drum brake spindles. Or, spend $225 on a rotor and hub. Anyone else think this math a bit off?
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              • ImpalaSam
                Hero BangShifter
                • Nov 2007
                • 214

                #1387
                Here is some good info on big car brakes:

                http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/306916/

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                • milner351
                  No Life Outside BangShift.com
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 16033

                  #1388
                  sorry I almost led you astray there Scott!
                  There's always something new to learn.

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                  • Beagle
                    "Flounder"
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 13804

                    #1389
                    Originally posted by ImpalaSam View Post
                    Here is some good info on big car brakes:

                    http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/306916/
                    the retro-fit corvette rotor link in first few was worth a read. I think he figured out there is more area than just the lugs holding the rotor still. .040 play is not much, I'd cut up a .020 feeler gauge and shim that if it bothered me.
                    Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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                    • Russell
                      Legendary BangShifter
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6529

                      #1390
                      Originally posted by Scott Liggett View Post
                      I could go to the junkyard, pull off spindles and hubs off a drum brake car for $150, then spend another $500 on a retrofit disc brake kit for drum brake spindles. Or, spend $225 on a rotor and hub. Anyone else think this math a bit off?
                      Math sound good on both the $ and time front. I did not know chevelles where consided "small" cars. That sounds like the best fix. Did not know if any newer parts would swap on even if you had to replace spindles / control arms. (The following is a joke!) What about a Crown Vic cross member?
                      http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                      1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

                      PB 60' 1.49
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                      • Scott Liggett
                        No Life Outside BangShift.com
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 21561

                        #1391
                        Originally posted by Russell View Post
                        Math sound good on both the $ and time front. I did not know chevelles where consided "small" cars. That sounds like the best fix. Did not know if any newer parts would swap on even if you had to replace spindles / control arms. (The following is a joke!) What about a Crown Vic cross member?
                        Spend $700 on parts and a week to put it all is better than me buying one rotor and having the car fixed in an evening?

                        I bought a new used hub from my guy in LA. Should be here by Friday. $135 with shipping.
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                        • Russell
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6529

                          #1392
                          Originally posted by Scott Liggett View Post
                          I could spend $225 on a rotor and hub. Anyone else think this math a bit off?
                          Originally posted by Russell View Post
                          Math sound good on both the $ and time front.
                          This is what I ment to say. The rest was just fluff
                          http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                          1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

                          PB 60' 1.49
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                          • yellomalibu
                            Legendary BangShifter
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 3631

                            #1393
                            Originally posted by Russell View Post
                            Math sound good on both the $ and time front. I did not know chevelles where consided "small" cars. That sounds like the best fix. Did not know if any newer parts would swap on even if you had to replace spindles / control arms. (The following is a joke!) What about a Crown Vic cross member?
                            When the Chevelle (Malibu) was insured with Allstate, I got an economy car discount on it. ...but I thought it was a mid-sized car. Novas, Camaros, and perhaps Corvairs would have been the small cars I would guess.

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                            • squirrel
                              Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 19334

                              #1394
                              Originally posted by Scott Liggett View Post
                              I bought a new used hub from my guy in LA. Should be here by Friday. $135 with shipping.
                              good stuff!

                              Yeah, a chevelle is a midsize car, and they got tiny in 78.
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                              • Scott Liggett
                                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 21561

                                #1395
                                I pulled the rotor off the driver's side to check the bearings. The grease was done in, but bearings and races were fine. I changed them out anyways. Been a long time since I packed bearings the really dirty way. Thankfully, I still had a box of rubber gloves lying about.

                                My new hub hasn't been delivered yet, so the passenger side waits. I did knocked the wheel studs and hub out of the rotor in wait. Had to buy another oil seal for the inner bearing which I will be taking out of the old hub.

                                The pads still looked nearly new. Reusing them.
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