The Turbo Revolution is Upon Us, Projections Say One-Fifth of Vehicles Sold to be Turbocharged by 2015

[IRONHEAD]

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guess you'd have to read the post to see I said trucks last, and they do for 2 reasons, always running and the low rpm..

Yep, I read it, and it's wrong. The Dodge/Cummins trucks will run from 6-10psi when *empty* cruising down the highway. Low RPM? the turbo isn't connected to the crankshaft - it is completely unrelated to engine RPM. At 900-1600 degrees EGT, the Holset in my truck is getting it's ass worked off, all the time.

but the king has spoken,

might want to become a truck tech at ford or mopar, before you hail the turbo.

tho the nailery might not like the grease under fingernails

Nope, can't say that I want to be a tech. Spidey doesn't make it sound too appealing.

can u read I said loaded or highway, have another beer

[IRONHEAD]

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the egt is higher under load yes, (come on say no)
so it's not worked all the time..

[SpiderGearsMan]

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DON'T DO IT , it don't pay
well it may pay better than your AV JOB , BUT THE WORK IS REALLY HARD

[SpiderGearsMan]

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the egt is higher under load yes, (come on say no)
so it's not worked all the time..

HEY WE HAVE EGR COOLERS FOR THAT STUFF , THEY LIKE TO CLOG AND LEAK

[Schtauffer]

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Pissing contests in this thread aside...

The trickle-down to us lowly hot-rodders that will come from more prevalent use of turbos in the OEM's will be quite nice.

[IRONHEAD]

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Pissing contests in this thread aside...

The trickle-down to us lowly hot-rodders that will come from more prevalent use of turbos in the OEM's will be quite nice.

they trickled down in the 80's..

[dieselgeek]

Re: The Turbo Revolution is Upon Us, Projections Say One-Fifth of Vehicles Sold to be Turbocharged b

Pissing contests in this thread aside...

The trickle-down to us lowly hot-rodders that will come from more prevalent use of turbos in the OEM's will be quite nice.

they trickled down in the 80's..

Weird, I didn't see many hotrods in the 80s with turbos. Only a couple OEM cars, and the turbos were so small that I don't think anyone considered them useful. Not to mention, nobody was using EFI back then, but some made them work with carbs. Rayjay setups, for example, but those weren't junkyard or OEM type turbos to my knowledge.

[purplecobra]

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What about the turbo ss cobalts, t5 Volvo's? Lots of good production turbo cars out there. I just drove my 97 turbocharged Cobra mustang over 2500 miles on drag week with out a hitch. The 1980's are medieval times when it comes to EFI systems

[horsewidower]

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I can't believe that we're listening to this misinformation again.

Turbo's are here to stay and will be or are used by damn near every manufacturer.

We are entering the golden age of the turbo. Its practically the only way the manufacturers will be able to offer anything approaching affordable performance and still have a chance of meeting the new CAFE standards.

You'll also see a lot more research done given that F1, and the IRL are mandating turbo cars, and the ACO is certainly favoring them for LeMans.

[IRONHEAD]

Re: The Turbo Revolution is Upon Us, Projections Say One-Fifth of Vehicles Sold to be Turbocharged b

Pissing contests in this thread aside...

The trickle-down to us lowly hot-rodders that will come from more prevalent use of turbos in the OEM's will be quite nice.

they trickled down in the 80's..

Weird, I didn't see many hotrods in the 80s with turbos. Only a couple OEM cars, and the turbos were so small that I don't think anyone considered them useful. Not to mention, nobody was using EFI back then, but some made them work with carbs. Rayjay setups, for example, but those weren't junkyard or OEM type turbos to my knowledge.

I think there is a whole lot of Buick owners that would say your wrong..

weird I said they trickled down in the 80's
bone yards where full of turbo's and there was banks.. kits.. dual turbos.. . and yes they used a lowly carb. just like alot do now. if it isn't efi you never saw it..
does efi make it easier.. maybe.. did hot rodders use them off totaled cars in the 80's yes they did with carb's no efi.. did anyone cover these cars ,nope
I had a t/a turbo with a 301.. that I dropped a 400 in.. the turbo lag was less with the 400...
and I wasn't the only one... nope, was the Buick turbo out for years with a carb yup
what did you ever do before efi...
you act like cars didn't run before them..
I think it is funny that the same people that will denounce the big three because of quality issues and relability issues. but out the other side of their mouth will say that they will build mainstream cars with a warranty prone drivetrain...
odd..
I see it to be in the niche cars.. and some high end cars.. but I don't see it being the standard powerplant in the lowly focus or cobalt/etc
and if they do install it in say a f body or mustang/etc the ecu will have so much code in the torque management function .it'll not matter that it's got a turbo.. and when you bypass that torque management you'll void the warrant. and they'll roll into the dealer and get told that and owners will cry foul.. and once the car companies have to fix the cars "tuners "screwed with.. because of an "image " standpoint..
say goodbye to this golden age of the turbo..
today's car buyer expects to be able to modify a car under warranty and if it breaks it's the dealers issue..
the headache of this at the dealer level will make dealers shy away from pushing the turbo hot cars on the lots. they can do that easily buy not dealing on those models.. like ford did with the svt and svo model,v.w. does with the tdi models(gas) and g.m. did with the top models even dsm didn't deal on the lancer turbo..
Subaru nope. rebates on all other models just not the xrs...
those that never seen the inside of a dealership repair shop and warrant work. don't know what a royal headache these cars are..
and with the easy of tuning them with a laptop.. the owner ups the power the dealer voids warrant because the manufacture said no dice..
it's an image nightmare..
as the lie'n owner doesn't look bad, the manufacture and dealer do..
so, I gotta ask what side of the mouth you really taking out of..?
can't have it both ways, blast a car comp. for quality and reliability issues and then say they'll chance they long ruff road to get to where they are now with quality , for that turbo..
cause by it's self the turbo will not be a problem as the factories will have a torque management system so not to break stuff and a service calender that be suited for the turbo'd engine/drivetrain.. but the laptop tech that turns up thee wick and then it breaks and the warranty fight that come next it the image headache that factories already are dealing with with engine packages that are able to make 100hp over stock with a few tweaks.. they already know full well whats gonna happen if the turbos are on board..

[Brian Lohnes]

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A lot of words to say virtually zero about the topic at hand.

VW's TDI models are gas? That is 100% wrong.

A Subaru XRS? That's a car that doesn't exist.

As per usual you present a lot of bluster and nothing of substance. A lot of feathers and not much chicken.

Brian

[SpiderGearsMan]

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trickle down did work for me in the eighties , those paychecks were huge

some of the biggest turbo 'boosters' [haha] on this board has never had to replace one of those rusty leaky hair driers , as they don't own a wrench

eaton superchargers hold up way better than turbos IMHO

thinking point/ counterpoint is not appreciated around here

[IRONHEAD]

Re: The Turbo Revolution is Upon Us, Projections Say One-Fifth of Vehicles Sold to be Turbocharged b

A lot of words to say virtually zero about the topic at hand.

VW's TDI models are gas? That is 100% wrong.

A Subaru XRS? That's a car that doesn't exist.

As per usual you present a lot of bluster and nothing of substance. A lot of feathers and not much chicken.

Brian

have u worked in a dealership service dept??

vw doesn't deal on the tdi's didn't know they're all oil burners.
the subaru, so I missed the three letters you dam know the model I'm talking about..
for someone that has never worked at a dealership and warranty work, you call my words feathers..
ok why ford put a torque management system in the mustang?
it's not for traction control(hint)

[Brian Lohnes]

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Your relevant dealership experience was was 20 years ago at a Chrysler place right?

We're in the same boat.

[SpiderGearsMan]

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violate the warranty , it is only money , but don't try to bring it back to stock tune and show up at my door
we have voided several vehicles warranty for laptop mods

sometimes work is fun