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  • slimbo5
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Mar 2010
    • 539

    #1

    nhra legal seat brace

    making the switch to kirkeys. really want an adjustable brace so others can drive the car when needed. anybody know if this is nhra legal?

    "Friends don't let friends run the daily driver class,"
  • MR P-BODY
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Apr 2012
    • 2359

    #2
    I cant say for fact but if it has enough surface area then I dont see
    why not... if the surface area is small it could spear you through the
    back.. but the rule says your seat back has to be within 3" of the cross
    bar... if I'm correct

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    • slimbo5
      Superhero BangShifter
      • Mar 2010
      • 539

      #3
      Thanks. I didn't realize there was a rule regarding distance.
      "Friends don't let friends run the daily driver class,"

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      • ksj2
        Superhero BangShifter
        • Apr 2011
        • 1648

        #4
        So the better half is racing it at DW this year.Emily is worth a tenth or TWO!hehehehehe.

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        • MR P-BODY
          Superhero BangShifter
          • Apr 2012
          • 2359

          #5
          Originally posted by slimbo5 View Post
          Thanks. I didn't realize there was a rule regarding distance.
          Yes there is a distance to the cross bar... but off hand I dont remember if its 3" or 6" .. but
          I set it at the spec and run a fixed seat position (but I set it up for myself or the customer)...
          if you look in the rule book(on line now days) it calls that out

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          • CDMBill
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Oct 2007
            • 4357

            #6
            The rules focus on helmet distance from the roll bar/main hoop and reinforcements to race seats of aluminum or fiberglass. SFI has a ton of upper mount rules but you'll be safe with a 6" square plate bolted to the back of the seat with a pivoting or sliding tube that bolts to the cross bar.



            Drag Week 2006 & 2012 - Winner Street Race Big Block Naturally Aspirated - R/U 2007 Broke DW '05 and Drag Weekend '15 Coincidence?

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            • slimbo5
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Mar 2010
              • 539

              #7
              Was going to fabricate something using my factory slides. Is that legal? It's like reading Chinese. Lol
              "Friends don't let friends run the daily driver class,"

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              • CDMBill
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Oct 2007
                • 4357

                #8
                I have never seen the tech guys check for lower seat attachment method. Just paint it all black (or cover it in matching leather) and bolt the seat back so it doesn't move if they give the rattle test, which I have seen.

                All of this is odd as you can go 8.50's with stock seats and no back brace and pass tech, go figure.
                Last edited by CDMBill; July 31, 2013, 04:31 PM.
                Drag Week 2006 & 2012 - Winner Street Race Big Block Naturally Aspirated - R/U 2007 Broke DW '05 and Drag Weekend '15 Coincidence?

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                • JSisk
                  Tire Chirper
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 52

                  #9
                  Never really gave this much thought. I was going to mount my Kirkey on a set of factory sliders to save weight and get my broken backed factory seat out of the car.

                  Sounds like I will either need to come up with a seat brace or fix my factory seat (needs to be done anyway) and leave it in to be legal. Dang it, something else to fix.................
                  Last edited by JSisk; August 1, 2013, 06:10 AM.
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                  • MR P-BODY
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2359

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CDMBill View Post
                    I have never seen the tech guys check for lower seat attachment method. Just paint it all black (or cover it in matching leather) and bolt the seat back so it doesn't move if they give the rattle test, which I have seen.

                    All of this is odd as you can go 8.50's with stock seats and no back brace and pass tech, go figure.
                    I always thought it strange that a factory seat was fine.. even a 2 door
                    bench seat that flips forward was legal.. and yet a so called race seat has
                    other specs to meet the rule

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                    • JSisk
                      Tire Chirper
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 52

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MR P-BODY View Post
                      I always thought it strange that a factory seat was fine.. even a 2 door
                      bench seat that flips forward was legal.. and yet a so called race seat has
                      other specs to meet the rule
                      Lot more of a chance of me winding up laying in the back seat because a broken factory seat than bending a kirkey backwards, LOL
                      WWW.JSISKPHOTOS.COM

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                      • 38P
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 5738

                        #12
                        Another question about the NHRA "Chinese" Regs . . ..

                        I want to make sure I understand . . . I do not need to bolt my FACTORY seat to the horizontal crossbar, right?

                        Also, regarding NHRA GENERAL REGS on fuel tanks (§ 20, Subpart 1.5 "Tanks" ) . . .

                        If I have a metallic fuel cell mounted between the frame rails where the stock fuel tank normally resides (between the diff and the rear bumper, under the trunk) , that is NOT "outside body and/or frame" and does not need the "steel tube frame constructed of minimum 1 1/4 O.D. x .058 chromoly or .118 mild steel tubing" and can be attached with steel straps of sufficient thickness and proper grade hardware, as millions of OEM-style tanks are attached, correct?

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                        • MR P-BODY
                          Superhero BangShifter
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2359

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Outsider View Post
                          I want to make sure I understand . . . I do not need to bolt my FACTORY seat to the horizontal crossbar, right?

                          Also, regarding NHRA GENERAL REGS on fuel tanks (§ 20, Subpart 1.5 "Tanks" ) . . .

                          If I have a metallic fuel cell mounted between the frame rails where the stock fuel tank normally resides (between the diff and the rear bumper, under the trunk) , that is NOT "outside body and/or frame" and does not need the "steel tube frame constructed of minimum 1 1/4 O.D. x .058 chromoly or .118 mild steel tubing" and can be attached with steel straps of sufficient thickness and proper grade hardware, as millions of OEM-style tanks are attached, correct?
                          You are correct... BUT if it hangs down far it needs a skid plate

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                          • 38P
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 5738

                            #14
                            What would be the specs on a legal skid plate?

                            (I'm sure hoping not to have to move it to inside the trunk . . . kinda need that space for all the crap I've got to carry for DW . . . and that checklist is still very long . . . only 36 more days before "D-day")

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                            • MR P-BODY
                              Superhero BangShifter
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2359

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Outsider View Post
                              What would be the specs on a legal skid plate?

                              (I'm sure hoping not to have to move it to inside the trunk . . . kinda need that space for all the crap I've got to carry for DW . . . and that checklist is still very long . . . only 36 more days before "D-day")
                              If the tank(any portion of it) is below the departure angle(that is the angle from
                              the bottom of the tire to the bottom of the rear bumper.. take a string and put it
                              from the bottom of the tire to the bumper and see if your tank is below the string)..
                              if it is I believe 1/4" alum was good for a skid plate
                              Last edited by MR P-BODY; August 1, 2013, 01:12 PM.

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