Building a New Shop!

[BOSSMAN]

Hmmm that's a surprise this morning.......

[SuperBuickGuy]

Time for a little grief (to cover up my jealousy at your mega-cool shop)

Pick out the ones who are the bricklayers and the one who isn't




Surprised with trusses? uhh, not ready for them yet?

[BOSSMAN]

I'll just say some people where more help than others......


It was a communication issue with giving me a "heads up" when they were to show up and deliver my building. I've had nothing but problems with the place that I purchased my building from. They screwed it up 5 times and has cost me $3K more than expected with less building materials than the original quote! Not happy and I will be having some words with them soon about their lack of customer support and not compensating me with all of their screwups. Been a rough road with them lately.

[DanStokes]

Kentucky Steel Truss who made my building were excellent. Sorry you're having the hassles.

Dan

[BOSSMAN]

[BOSSMAN]

Got the wall forms peeled off yesterday to take a look at how the poured wall turned out after curing.




Next step is getting tar on the block wall and drain tile in place. Today I need to get a load of pea gravel so I can get this portion done before the back filling begins.

[BOSSMAN]

Nothing like working in the dark using a lantern to try and beat the heat LOL! Got two coats of tar on now.




Done right at sunrise!

[70chevyC-10]

Early bird gets the worm - nice view you have too.

[SuperBuickGuy]

out of complete curiosity I ask - which is cheaper to build, block or pour?

[BOSSMAN]

out of complete curiosity I ask - which is cheaper to build, block or pour?

Poured wall is total 56' long X 4' high X 8" thick: $460 concrete (5 yards), $100 for wall ties & form release, and pry $100 in rebar. Labor was free here.

Block wall is total 91' long X 8' high (12 courses) using 8" block: 860+ block $810, $400 Mortar mix, $1200 labor for 5 guys, pry $200 in rebar. Lots of help from some buddies on the labor side and cut rate from the block layers. Still pry another $500 in concrete to slug the block yet. This wall is built like a fortress!

Both are minus footing costs which was $3400 for both footings total.

I could have penciled everything to a "T" to figure out what was cheaper in the end but I have lots of friends who either want to help out or trade some labor with me to save me money in the end. Some of the guys needed the funds to help ends meet so I opted to spend some money to help them out. It was still cheaper than if I hired it out so it's still a "Win - Win Situation." Now to the average person who just called them up to do the work it really depends on the labor side of things on their end (I didn't ask). Just the material side I'd say the block wall is cheaper. Hard saying without the actual bid?

[SuperBuickGuy]

Poured wall is total 56' long X 4' high X 8" thick: $460 concrete (5 yards), $100 for wall ties & form release, and pry $100 in rebar. Labor was free here.

Block wall is total 91' long X 8' high (12 courses) using 8" block: 860+ block $810, $400 Mortar mix, $1200 labor for 5 guys, pry $200 in rebar. Lots of help from some buddies on the labor side and cut rate from the block layers. Still pry another $500 in concrete to slug the block yet. This wall is built like a fortress!

Both are minus footing costs which was $3400 for both footings total.

I could have penciled everything to a "T" to figure out what was cheaper in the end but I have lots of friends who either want to help out or trade some labor with me to save me money in the end. Some of the guys needed the funds to help ends meet so I opted to spend some money to help them out. It was still cheaper than if I hired it out so it's still a "Win - Win Situation." Now to the average person who just called them up to do the work it really depends on the labor side of things on their end (I didn't ask). Just the material side I'd say the block wall is cheaper. Hard saying without the actual bid?

I like the break out you did thanks.... from what you said it appears, material wise, blocks are cheaper (concrete wall is 25% the size of the block wall); but with labor it looks like a wash since it takes more labor to install a wall as opposed to forms.

[BOSSMAN]

Got up at around 4am today and started cutting the rebar for uprights in the block wall. A few guys showed up at 7am to help get the area prepped and make room for the concrete truck. Started slugging the block wall at about 8am and had it all done by 10am. Luckily we only had to bucket up some concrete for half the end walls. Just need to back fill my retaining wall now and the building guy should be by next week sometime to start setting poles and start the construction on the building.

[STINEY]

I'm a dummy on block walls....... does slugging completely fill the voids in the blocks? Or is it more of a cap?

Very nice progress. I'm really liking the pattern on the poured wall.

[milner351]

That's a lot of work done in a pretty short amount of time - with the heat wave we've had - let no one doubt your dedication!

[BOSSMAN]

I'm a dummy on block walls....... does slugging completely fill the voids in the blocks? Or is it more of a cap?

Very nice progress. I'm really liking the pattern on the poured wall.

The open cells of the block get filled with concrete every two feet vertically and then we had knock out rows at course 7 & 12 where concrete gets filled horizontally. Any where the concrete got filled rebar was also placed for strength. I'm learning alot about construction doing this project.