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  • Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

    http://www.bangshift.com/blog/Mustan...-for-2009.html

  • #2
    Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

    The spin in the comments at Autoblog would be hilarious if they weren't so sad. :D

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    • #3
      Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

      what month did the f body start hit'n showrooms?
      the 2009 mustang was there in nov. '08 ;)

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      • #4
        Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

        Originally posted by IRONHEAD
        what month did the f body start hit'n showrooms?
        the 2009 mustang was there in nov. '08 ;)
        I think the comparison is '10 Camaro versus '10 Mustang. Both cars came out around March-ish, no?

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        • #5
          Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

          The way I read it, it was calendar year sales for each nameplate.

          Thus the Camaro people have valid points about how the OZ Bumblebee Camaro wasn't on sale the entire year, and lost some sales to slow deliveries, waiting lists, rampant dealer greed, sub-optimal equipment mixes (mostly, not enough V6s), the whole bailout/bankruptcy fiasco, and other demand-reducting factors.

          On the other hand, considering how far down Mustang was on power in 2009 across the model range and the obvious pent-up demand for both Camaros and Challengers (both of which have virtually no competition from used versions of these cars at this point), Mustang's calendar year win is mildly surprising.

          Glancing at the sales charts, both Challenger and Camaro cannibalized sales from Mustang. And Mustang's failure to break the 70,000 units mark places calendar year 2009 as one of the worst sales years in Mustang's history.

          For MY 2011, Ford's power-to-weight, heritage, and quality advantages . . . and perhaps some modest recovery in the auto market, should bump up Mustang's sales quite a bit. Camaro and Challenger are probably still a year or two away from "cooling off" (fashion cycles in sporty coupes tend to run 3-4 years) or losing sales to used cars. So calendar year 2010 should be very interesting.

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          • #6
            Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

            news of the odd , since there wasn't a 2009 CAMARO - king of the road , just 2009 wheezy mustangs , getting blown away by cobalt ss

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            • #7
              Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

              I gotta wonder how many Mustang buyers decided to wait since they announced how much better the motors will be in the '11 models.

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              • #8
                Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan
                news of the odd , since there wasn't a 2009 CAMARO - king of the road , just 2009 wheezy mustangs , getting blown away by cobalt ss
                Just us slow Mustang folks gettin beat by any thing with a bow tie, wonder why we evan try to race our slow poorly desienged POS's. The LS motor is just so great why would we evan try to run our dumb ass junk. I wonder why those Camaro SS's decided to let me make them look bad at stop lights?

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                • #9
                  Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                  Spidey has his bowtie blinders on again.
                  Act your age, not your shoe size. - Prince

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                  • #10
                    Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                    Originally posted by studemax
                    Spidey has his bowtie blinders on again.
                    again? Hell, he never takes them off.
                    Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                    1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ix-to-4sixzero
                    1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                    1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                    1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                      Yep, nothing like the raw muscle of an ecotec 2.nothing to make you smile. Man cards checked at the door, please.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                        Originally posted by 88ponypowr
                        Yep, nothing like the raw muscle of an ecotec 2.nothing to make you smile. Man cards checked at the door, please.
                        haha...very funny ;D

                        Still, opinions aside, a good news story all-round to see performance continues to be a money-maker, the pony-car wars persist and at least two of the three (Camaro and Mustang) are making their manufacturers $$$.

                        And lots of excitement about the new 5.0...rumours of over 400 hp and possibly even revival of a Boss 302 limited edition? Blue oval fans should be salivating
                        Michael from Hampton Roads

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                          The Camaro is not far off considering it it was sold for 3 months less than the Mustang. The Camaro has outsold the Mustang for 7 months now.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                            Originally posted by Mr4Speed
                            I gotta wonder how many Mustang buyers decided to wait since they announced how much better the motors will be in the '11 models.
                            Undoubtedly that has dampened sales of the 2010 model.
                            Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan
                            news of the odd , since there wasn't a 2009 CAMARO - king of the road , just 2009 wheezy mustangs , getting blown away by cobalt ss

                            Oh really? Let's look at some objective test data.

                            "The 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS [260 h.p. turbo/direct injected 2.0 liter Ecotec] uses up just 5.8 seconds accelerating to 60 mph, and it goes through the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat at 103.6 mph."
                            http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...-ss-coupe.html

                            Compare the Cobalt SS to the 2010 Mustang GT:
                            "A 13.5-second quarter-mile sprint at 102.7 mph proves otherwise, neatly splitting the difference between the Chevy [Camaro SS] and the Dodge [5.7 Hemi Challenger R/T=] . Zero to 60 in 5.2 seconds (4.9 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) is nothing to sneeze at either."
                            http://www.insideline.com/chevrolet/...ustang-gt.html

                            There is no question that the SS Camaro was a few tenths quicker in stock form than a 2010 Mustang GT (and slower than Shelby GT500 & GT500KR (the real "King of the Road" in the four-seat American sports coupe class)).

                            The turbo Cobalt SS is a hot pocket rocket (it will make my Top 11 Collector GM cars of the '00s list when I get around to typing it) . But you'd have to knock back a couple of forties to delude yourself into thinking that new 315 h.p. Mustang GTs are getting "blown away" by Cobalt SS on anything like a regular basis.

                            Originally posted by 88ponypowr
                            Yep, nothing like the raw muscle of an ecotec 2.nothing to make you smile. Man cards checked at the door, please.
                            The 2.0-liter turbo develops 260 horsepower at 5,300 rpm and 260 pound-feet of torque at only 2,000 rpm. In a ~ 3,000 pound car, that's hardly "man card" checking stuff. There are a number of venerated musclecar that would have like to have that good of a power-to-weight ratio.

                            Here's some food for thought: if GM would have only added a second bank of cylinders to the Ecotec 2.0, the resulting twin-turbo 4 liter DOHC V8 would pound out more power than an LS7. If rumors are true, the next generation of Shelby GT500 is going to give the LS gang a real education on turbo DOHC V8 power . . . . ;D

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                            • #15
                              Re: Mustang Outsells Camaro for 2009

                              I wonder why Ford bothered putting out the new mustang for 2010 when they were just going to change the engines in both the V6 and V8 models.

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