my dream of 200mph

[Monster]

Re: my dream of 200mph

...w/ full cage & metal seat, on-board fire system.

Those are required to pass technical inspection for those speeds.
Can't race without 'em.

[JRoberts]

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Someone once told me, "Getting over 200 will take more horsepower than you think, and more money than you have". They had experience too !

;D

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/zr1

It's more than I'll spend... ;D

After the initial sticker shock wears off think about how much it will cost to make that car legal to go 200mph. Cage, chute, fire system, etc, etc, etc.

[Monster]

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Yep, the fun never ends ...

[DanStokes]

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That's why I'm building the Camaro backwards. The car has most of the cage, the Kirkey race seat (which I'll need to modify to meet the new side head restraint requirements), and will get the fire system, etc, etc. All this with 250ci six. The goal is to make the car safe at 200, then build a motor that will do it.

Dan

[brandontinley]

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i am planning on building my cougar backwards also it seems like that is the easier way to go about it thanks anyone wanna volunteer to let me drive their car lol

[terry russell]

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Your cougar with 400 hp should run 140-150+ .Go as low as you can with it.Get a rule book don't turn a bolt till you know witch way you want to go.
A 79 mustang with a small block.Would be a better car
terry

[AdioSS]

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what are the rules about engine swaps?

He IS started with a Ford after all... ;) ;D

[terry russell]

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can put a briggs in it and run alt. ;)

[DanStokes]

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Keith tells me that the engine has to be of the type that COULD have come in the car from the factory, and the port configuration of the head(s) has to match what came from the factory - that is, if you want to run PRO and some of the other classes. As Terry said, if you run ALT, you can run a Packard in it if you want.

Let me give an example with my Camaro ('78, factory six). I can run the six and run "E" engine class (less than 260 CID). I can run any size small block and run in the appropriate engine displacement class (a 350 would be "C", for example), because this car could have had a SBC from the factory. I can run a BBC of any displacement, for the same reason. However, I can't run a Sissel head on my six, as it has crossflow ports and those were never offered in that body. Neither can I run - say - an Olds 350, even though it's a GM engine and may be a bolt-in.

Hope that helps
Dan

[AdioSS]

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so pretty much any modern cars that want to run big blocks are SOL

[terry russell]

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you can run any motor . you cant run production with a swap.
there is a class for most cars.429/460 would run in a modified class.
terry

[Fordplay0621]

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Of corse there are guys like me who drive their Altereds everyday to work as an Everyday Driver. About going over 200 MPH on the Salt, you can do it with about twice the Horspower then you would need on the Street (Z06 Vette) But on the Salt you have Traction Problems. Therefore, you have to add Ballast and Aerodynamics to keep you on the Ground. More HP is required to overcome all of these other add ons. My car runs nowhere near 200mph, in fact it barley runs 120 MPH at Maxton, At Bonneville it gets really Squirlly because of the Traction. On an Old section of Highway outside of Texarkana I ran the same Car to 142 MPH. Front wheel drive cars Track well on the salt but the rear end likes to go around, so I would have to add a bit of weight to keep the rear end stuck. I need to go to a Windtunnel when I can afford the Cash to do so, We have learned that what works on one car does'nt necessarily work on another car. Check out what the other Racers with similiar Cars are doing and do what they do.

[AdioSS]

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Recently there have been quite a few exotics that are capable of running 200mph. Most of them made 500-700hp. The Z06 is rated at 505hp and has a claimed 198mph top speed. The old McLaren F1 made around 630hp and was capable of running 230mph. Of course they are all wind tunnel tuned.

I'm guessing the 900hp number is either for a 200mph standing start or for a higher altitude place like Bonneville where wheelspin is an issue.

[TheSilverBuick]

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200mph on the street doesn't equate to 200mph on the salt. Pretty much due to traction issues. I was talking to Ed (Vette128) about it, he took his Silver State car to the Salts and it ran 20-30mph slower despite being at a lower altitude, some of it is tire selection, and some of it is extra weight and downforce needed to make the tires stick to the salt instead of spinning them (which requires more Hp).

[AdioSS]

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I just saw a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder at the bank and was wondering what kind of hoops a factory 4WD car like that would have to go through in order to run 200+ at the Salt. I'm assuming it would run in the D/GT class since it has a 303cid engine. It looks like the record for that class is only 209mph and on the street, that is approximately the top speed.