Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

[milner351]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

Here's more good reading on the subject - and a slick tool that I'm sure aint cheap:

http://www.camaros.org/bellhousings.shtml

[DanStokes]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

That alignment tool is the cat's butt, or sure. But they also show a dial indicator being used as discussed in this thread. Not as slick as the dedicated tool but still doable. The dial indicator system relies on the concept that if you braced a grease pencil off the bellhousing at any distance from the centerline you could rotate the crankshaft and the line drawn would be a perfect circle. So if the dial indicator is solidly mounted on the flywheel and adjusted to hit the bellhousing bore (as shown in John's article) it should draw a perfect circle with no runout. If the indicator shows runout the bellhousing either A) has to be misaligned or B) the center bore was machined out of round (you can check that with dial calipers if it's a concern). Then adjust as needed with the eccentric pins and you're home free.

I hope I've fully muddied these waters.

Dan

[ImpalaSam]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

Like the text said, it's just a go/nogo gage. It won't tell you exactly how much you are off. The only way to
get that is with the dial indicator. I did mine with the engine out of the car which made it way easier but
still a little tricky. I have a toolbox full of indicators and bases from being a machinist and it is still somewhat
difficult getting everything together in the bore. I put the bore on mine centered side to side and about .002"
high to compensate for the clearance between the bearing retainer and housing bore. I got a little lucky that
the offset dowels just happened to work out that way.

[Scott Liggett]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

Thanks for the info, guys. We'll see if I can do this stuff this weekend. And, how many times I can heft that heavy scattershield without dropping it on my skull.

[Huskinhano]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

HF?

Explain please?

Harbor Freight, thy sell dial indicators and magnetic bases. Sorry for the confusion. For a one shot deal this could be just the thing.

[Scott Liggett]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

I got this clutch. It's got an ceramic disc which is not a street clutch. The description says it's an organic disc, but the specs say ceramic. It's a ceramic padded paddle style disc. No fun to drive in traffic.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ZZZ-30015/

I believe this is the clutch I need. Look at the bottom. It has the exact same description.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ZZZ-30006/

Looks like I have to do some exchanging and phone calls. This kind of crap really pisses me off. I'll be delayed another week because of it.

[langleylad]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

I placed an order with Summitt for 4 steel wheels with caps . 2 arrived here , the other 2 made it half way here and then went back to Summitt for some reason . The 2 that arrived were both damaged . I notified them of what happened and returned them . They then sent all 4 wheels which arrived in perfect condition and adjusted my bill accordingly . In the end I was charged for 2 wheels and 4 caps . It was a PITA but in the end I was happy .

[malc]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

http://www.circletrack.com/drivetraintech/ctrp_0607_bellhousing_alignment/index.html

[SuperBuickGuy]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

I got this clutch. It's got an ceramic disc which is not a street clutch. The description says it's an organic disc, but the specs say ceramic. It's a ceramic padded paddle style disc. No fun to drive in traffic.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ZZZ-30015/

I believe this is the clutch I need. Look at the bottom. It has the exact same description.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ZZZ-30006/

Looks like I have to do some exchanging and phone calls. This kind of crap really pisses me off. I'll be delayed another week because of it.

be sure you talk to the right person, calling customer service at Summit almost made me swear off summit.

[DanStokes]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

I've pretty much been using Jeg's, where I've had better luck. The prices are almost identical.

Dan

[Scott Liggett]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

The wrong clutch got sent back and the correct one got ordered. Too bad Summit only had it in their Ohio warehouse. Longer too wait. Grrrr.

[Tazracing]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

this is why I read up on whats what on the vendors web site, get the part # and then order from jegs/summit..

[TheSilverBuick]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

So why the switch from a local parts store special?

[Scott Liggett]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

this is why I read up on whats what on the vendors web site, get the part # and then order from jegs/summit..

Zooms website isnt that great. Outdated and they dont have descriptions on individual parts. They have the full catalog as a download, otherwise they just give a general description of the series of clutches. Their pic of the 30000 series is wrong too. It shows a borg and beck style pressure plate and they use a diaphram style. Summit, Jegs, and all the other parts houses copy and pasted the pic and description. Summit does have specs of each part. I misses the disc material when I ordered.

[Scott Liggett]

Re: Rebeldryver's '65 Impala SS Black Betty

So why the switch from a local parts store special?

I kept cooking those clutches when racing the car. It was smoking at Firebird last year.