Okay, the TSA is going too far.

[Monster]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.



Oh come on people, you are making this harder than it really is.
Just keep in mind this small list of prohibited items for carry-on, when travelling;

Box Cutters
Ice Axes/Ice Picks
Knives - except for plastic or round bladed butter knives
Meat Cleavers
Razor-Type Blades - such as box cutters, utility knives, razor blades not in a cartridge, but excluding safety razors.
Sabers
Scissors - metal with pointed tips and blades shorter than four inches
Swords
Baseball Bats
Bows and Arrows
Cricket Bats
Golf Clubs
Hockey Sticks
Lacrosse Sticks
Pool Cues
Ski Poles
Spear Guns
Ammunition
BB guns
Compressed Air Guns
Firearms
Flare Guns
Flares
Gun Lighters
Gun Powder including black powder and percussion caps
Parts of Guns and Firearms
Pellet Guns
Realistic Replicas of Firearms
Starter Pistols
Axes and Hatchets
Cattle Prods
Crowbars
Hammers
Drills and drill bits (including cordless portable power drills)
Saws (including cordless portable power saws)
Tools (greater than seven inches in length)
Billy Clubs
Black Jacks
Brass Knuckles
Kubatons
Mace/Pepper Spray
Martial Arts Weapons
Night Sticks
Nunchakus
Stun Guns/Shocking Devices
Throwing Stars
Explosive Materials
Blasting Caps
Dynamite
Fireworks
Flares (in any form)
Hand Grenades
Plastic Explosives
Realistic Replicas of Explosives
Aerosol (any except for personal care or toiletries in limited quantities)
Fuels (including cooking fuels and any flammable liquid fuel)
Gasoline
Gas Torches
Lighter Fluid
Common Lighters
Torch Lighters
Strike-anywhere Matches
Flammable Paints
Turpentine and Paint Thinner
Realistic Replicas of Incendiaries
Disabling Chemicals & Other Dangerous Items
Chlorine for Pools and Spas
Small compressed gas cartridges
Fire extinguishers and other compressed gas cylinders
Liquid Bleach
Spillable Batteries
Spray Paint
Tear Gas
Gel-type candles
Gel shoe inserts
Non-flammable liquid, gel, or aerosol paint
Flammable liquid, gel, or aerosol paint
Snow globes and like decorations regardless of size

:P

[66Fury3]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

Remember what Archie Bunker said about Hijackers? Hand out hand guns to all passengers..... That will stop Hijacking's....

[TheSilverBuick]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

Meh, Travelling to and from Miami, FL (from Las Vegas), I didn't see or have any problems with what security measures they had. If they want me to walk through a scanner instead of sticking a finger up my ass, I'll take it! I got frisked in Miami when heading home, I was wearing loose fitting jeans and a t-shirt, no big deal.

Cracks me up on how many people are either really unsecure with themselves or have so much pride they can't deal with five seconds more hold up going to a flight in which you're likely going to wait at least a half hour to board after you get to the gate :

[joebogey]

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The other part of the proposal was that they would have the people monitoring the scanners located elsewhere in the airport so that they wouldn't be able to put the face to the image.

[Bamfster]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

So much for the "War On Terror" doing anything to make air travel safer. It only got worse. Way to spend billions of dollars we didn't have in the first place!!

Also, the TSA may be "socialist," but it was put in place long before our current "Socialist" President was elected - remember that.

Dam 'geek....we agree again!...is this round of arctic air actually hell freezing over????

Exactly why I refuse to fly anywhere, let alone enter an airport to pick anyone up.....I'll meet you outside the door where I dropped you off. I refuse to be subject to "their" ridiculous rules and regs.

If you think you're safe off their reservation, you're wrong

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/dhs-threatens-blogger/

Ah the old intimidation routine....used it many times myself. I urge everyone to "know the law" when it comes to a gray area that you deal with regularly. Sounds like the blogger had no idea what tsa could and couldn't do (not that I'm an expert) but it sounds like they bluffed him prety good.

[SuperBuickGuy]

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There's a problem with "know the law" - neither you nor I know its extents.... and I'm fairly sure the Patriot Act gave them the powers they were employing...
The other problem with bluffing is that eventually they find out and there really is hell to pay because if you cannot trust authority, how do you think people will react (after having their rights trammeled) to apparent authority (such as an off-duty police officer, or a plain clothes person?)...

[yogreasygramma]

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I'm with Dave (yellowmalibu) - it an interesting debate. We (most Americans, anyhow) expect our government to keep us safe yet most of us will fight to retain our personal rights. As always in a Democracy...
Dan

Please tell me Dan, when did we cease being a Republic and turn into a democracy?

On another note, those full body scanners use radiation, which from what I've been told all my life, is not healthy.

[joe_rocket45]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

Oh come on people, you are making this harder than it really is.
Just keep in mind this small list of prohibited items for carry-on, when travelling;
..............

Tools (greater than seven inches in length)

......
Snow globes and like decorations regardless of size

:P

great, just great, now when they scan my genitalia I'm automatically going to be excluded :o

;D ;D

[TheSilverBuick]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

LMAO! Nice!

[joebogey]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

Snow globes and like decorations regardless of size

great, just great, now when they scan my genitalia I'm automatically going to be excluded   :o

;D ;D

You've got a snow globe down there??? :o :o :o

[67prostreet]

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great, just great, now when they scan my genitalia I'm automatically going to be excluded :o

;D ;D

What's a matter. Stuffing a sock in your pants just doesn't cut it anymore? :D

[DanStokes]

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Not sure how the gov in Poland is structured but here in the States we're a democratic republic. Sort of the best of both worlds - and, as always, the worst. Kinda like marriage - you have the benefits and the drawbacks.

Dan

I'm with Dave (yellowmalibu) - it an interesting debate. We (most Americans, anyhow) expect our government to keep us safe yet most of us will fight to retain our personal rights. As always in a Democracy...
Dan

Please tell me Dan, when did we cease being a Republic and turn into a democracy?

On another note, those full body scanners use radiation, which from what I've been told all my life, is not healthy.

[IRONHEAD]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

EAST WAY TO FIX THIS..
don't fly.. drive or take a train
and SEE this country you live in...
rant over

[pdub]

Re: Okay, the TSA is going too far.

I flew to work for two or three years, and I thank my lucky stars I haven't been on a plane now for another two years or so. Only because it meant I was not living my life at "home."

When you go through two airports every Monday morning and every Friday night for that long, it's just another commute that happens to involve the airports and flying. You actually plan in some kind of delay at security on the Friday night flight. There will be somebody going off on a vacation to somewhere and they've either never flown, or haven't flown in years, and they'll have kids and all of their too-much stuff including a dozen things that are banned and are very anxious about the whole thing and they get pissed when the TSA folks open their carry-ons and start taking things out. Like clockwork, it'll happen.

If you relax and just observe, and like was said above - it's going to be another 1-2 hours at the gate anyway, it's no big deal. If you're in the rhythm of it. Some folks are not. Poor vacationers. Lost all of their toiletries - again.

And all of that nonsense doesn't make a dang bit of difference safety-wise if the pilot is drunk or has been on duty for too long, or didn't sleep last night for whatever personal reason. It's all a leap of faith, and not always faith in the silly "system," but faith in true circumstance.

[bnjny]

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As someone who flies nationally fairly often, it really is not that bad... TSA workers are not the brightest, especially in some of the southwestern states... I'm ok with it... What makes me chuckle is that the same people who are all for the war on terror are ususally the same ones complaining about the TSA... Can't have it both ways...