New Shop Planning

[SuperBuickGuy]

Haha the day we moved into this house the windchill was -24F

High temp last summer was 111F

We get it all.

inside a shop, there is no windchill; and the concrete plus the shading of the building makes working in the shop during the summer quite nice.

In southern climates, I like the idea of an outdoor two post lift because makes keeping the floor clean, easier; you can pressure wash cars on it without soaking the shop; doesn't take up interior space; and in a place like Texas, would be non-useable maybe two weeks a year....

[STINEY]

I liked the idea of no footing because of nearby trees, but maybe it would be better to sever those roots to keep them from DEFINITELY heaving the slab later on.

There, fixed it for ya.

For the love of all that is good and mighty - plan on a lift - trust me, they keep coming down in price and you'll wonder how you ever got along without one, I'm begging you - build for it.

^^ this X 2. If nothing else, having thickened pads and knowing where they are is a major selling point to the right potential buyer in the future. I don't think you are planning on moving soon, but a few bucks of extra concrete could pay MAJOR dividends later.

inside a shop, there is no windchill; and the concrete plus the shading of the building makes working in the shop during the summer quite nice.

Um, SBG, could you come help me with some stuff this January? Nothing physical, just some shop work. Might want your windbreaker.

The shading thing has been working well here on the plains of Ohio......until about 1:00 that is. By then the concrete slab has lost any coolness it might have gained during the sub-90* nights.

Now none of this would apply if my shop were surrounded by Owl-infested pine forest, I do see your angle.

[TheSilverBuick]

You guys are good at spending my money.... haha

Get a basement level dug out with a car elevator too.

[SuperBuickGuy]

There, fixed it for ya.



Um, SBG, could you come help me with some stuff this January? Nothing physical, just some shop work. Might want your windbreaker.

The shading thing has been working well here on the plains of Ohio......until about 1:00 that is. By then the concrete slab has lost any coolness it might have gained during the sub-90* nights.

Now none of this would apply if my shop were surrounded by Owl-infested pine forest, I do see your angle.

had you asked me, I'd advised against living in the armpit .... errrr dust bowl, no not right... oh yeah, bread basket of America.... plus, your shop isn't enclosed, granted it doesn't have much space between the boards, but it's still far closer to a carport then a shop.

.... of course, none of the above applies to you, you stack cars, boats, and bugs around your shop as insulation

[SuperBuickGuy]

Get a basement level dug out with a car elevator too.

5 levels of awesome in that statement

[BBR]

Here's where it has to fit. That back fence corner is not a 90.

[SuperBuickGuy]

you must really be in love with that tree to avoid pruning it at the ground and replanting one somewhere less in the way.

[BBR]

Trees are like gold out here.

[Scott Liggett]

I like your design with the lean to on the back. Makes great extra space for work benches. I'd turn the roof 90*. The barn look always seems that the side with the door has the roof peak above it.

[milner351]

What are your set back requirements?

Is that fence right on the lot line?

Doesn't look like enough room between that tree and fence to put that much building.... unless it's just the perspective of the photo.

[BBR]

Remember that I am a professional land surveyor? Haha. There are no rear or sideyard setbacks for out-buildings in my area. The fence is basically on the property line.

I want the gable on that side for 2 reasons:
- shorter span for the trusses
- puts the gable on the side you see from the dining room window

[SuperBuickGuy]

Trees are like gold out here.

I get that, but how much would it cost to have one of those huge tree-replanters come and move it to a more logical spot (you know, those trucks with the big clamshell on the back?). even if the roots don't kill your floor, I think 30' is minimum for a reasonable shop size - gives you benches around the parameter, and two working bays in the shop.... 24' not so much

[Scott Liggett]

I get that, but how much would it cost to have one of those huge tree-replanters come and move it to a more logical spot (you know, those trucks with the big clamshell on the back?). even if the roots don't kill your floor, I think 30' is minimum for a reasonable shop size - gives you benches around the parameter, and two working bays in the shop.... 24' not so much

Depending on the state and the tree species, it may not even be legal. also, some trees will go into severe shock from being moved and wont survive.