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  • Tom Slick
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Jul 2009
    • 545

    #31
    Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

    iirc there should be a ground around the starter, block to firewall. It may be higher up on the block in the back. It's the one I always forget and see right as it's straining and trying to rip the firewall off when the engine is coming out.

    If one of the grounds was bad, consider them all bad? Take every wire that goes from the block to the frame (at least 2 iirc) and scrub hell out of them with wire brush or scotch brite and the surface they attach to.

    A slow crank and no spark, I'd pull the negative from the battery cable and have a good look at the cable as well. This all kind of sounds like bad circuit to me.

    Did you get the 40p engine yet? I'd even consider a stock mustang roller with it just for farting around. Any of the alphabet / TFS stage 1ish cams and I'd be looking at P2V and coil bind. The pistons in the Explorer / Mountaineer were a little different shape than the Mustangs..I put a good set of TRW forged in the one I had, no problems, but iirc, the Explorer pistons had less of a dish. I didn't measure deck height with either cuz I was in hack mode... I'll look and see if they are still locatable, something was bothering me about the valve relief in them too.

    Does it have all the front cover /engine accessory drive on it still? They were shorter package than a Fox, but it all changes over. I never have looked at the SN95, and wonder sometimes if they are not the same.

    re: Trans. I've had that happen every time I change the fluid. Somebody here, I can't remember who, suggested that I had just drained the friction material with the fluid change. Probably so. Is it a C4 ? Rebuild kits are dirt cheap and the books / videos make it look pretty tempting. The clamps for the clutch packs were the only drawback and I was eyeing some big c clamps in possession as a "substitute"... nothing like the real tool, but then again, 100.00 rebuilds are my style. ;)



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    • Russell
      Legendary BangShifter
      • Oct 2009
      • 6528

      #32
      Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

      Shawn, your capri looks to be in much better shape than mine.

      Tom, Yes do have the P engine I have not touched it yet. My understanding of the P pistons is they have no dish, I am not sure about valve reliefs, I did not take any pictures of the pistons of my other P engine. I have read about checking p to v clearance with a feeler gage I will give that a try. I plan to replace the valve springs. I put a stock mustang cam in the P engine in my 89 mustang b/c I did not want to give up any low end I am still running 3.08 in that car. I want to get as much as I can out if the stock long block with this one i figured a cam would be a good place to pick up some power.

      The Capri still has all the fed. The P engine is missing the a/c and alt. don't remember if ps pump is there or not I think it is but it looks really diffrent. I plan to swap it all over because I will need the front cover with the fuel pump hole and I think the water pumps are diffrent.

      I would like to be able to rebuild trans but I think that has bad Idea written all over it. I think you should try it out and let me know how it comes out. I have heard that about the friction material coming out with the fluid but after the first drive I think its already shot so changing the fluid more than likely will kill it completely, I may change it anyway with my fingers crossed.
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      • 88pony
        Superhero BangShifter
        • Jan 2008
        • 597

        #33
        Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

        Originally posted by Russell
        Originally posted by 88pony
        Check the ground by the starter relay? Not sure if your'79 has one -it happened on my '91.
        I do not know what/where that is. Do you mean solenoid?
        Yeah, relay-solenoid, same thing. Drivers side fender. I'm trying to remember what all I did when that happened...I kinda remember shotgunning it

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        • Russell
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Oct 2009
          • 6528

          #34
          Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

          Well I am not really sure what's going on I tried to ohm out the dizzy and module. Then I took the steering column apart and the ignition switch was split! Pushed it back together and it fired up! Went to store $14.14 switch fired up great I took a video with my phone I will try later to post it. Well I let it run out gas, did not have any more so I went to get gas and picked up plug es, put those it put on a set of better used wires. Poured a bottle of Lucas tranny fix in. Filled up the gas bottle. When I try to crank it it had no spark again. The problem I thought I fixed came back when it ran out of gas. Lots of trouble shooting later I put a diffrent dizzy in it and it ran again. I don't understand how running out of gas causes a no spark problem? I hope its fixed now. Is thee supposed to be a vacuum line going to the dizzy?
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          • Tazracing

            #35
            Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

            glad u figured it out, I figured it was the ign switch,, been there done that

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            • JeffMcKC
              Legendary BangShifter
              • Oct 2007
              • 7024

              #36
              Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

              Originally posted by Russell
              Well I am not really sure what's going on I tried to ohm out the dizzy and module. Then I took the steering column apart and the ignition switch was split! Pushed it back together and it fired up! Went to store $14.14 switch fired up great I took a video with my phone I will try later to post it. Well I let it run out gas, did not have any more so I went to get gas and picked up plug es, put those it put on a set of better used wires. Poured a bottle of Lucas tranny fix in. Filled up the gas bottle. When I try to crank it it had no spark again. The problem I thought I fixed came back when it ran out of gas. Lots of trouble shooting later I put a diffrent dizzy in it and it ran again. I don't understand how running out of gas causes a no spark problem? I hope its fixed now. Is thee supposed to be a vacuum line going to the dizzy?
              It has a crank and run wire, once it quits, your back to using the crank wire to start it
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              • Russell
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Oct 2009
                • 6528

                #37
                Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                I don?t understand what does that have to with my problem showing up when it runs out of gas? I do think the switch needed to be replaced, so was the stator having intermittent problems?
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                • Russell
                  Legendary BangShifter
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6528

                  #38
                  Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                  Worked on the capri some more today. I did not get the dizzy all the way in yesterday pulled cleaned it up dropped it back in ran much better. Using a hand pump we pumped about 3 gallons of old stinking gas out put some fresh gas in the tank with a little fuel treatment. So now it running off the tank and not the fire hazard under the hood. Pulled the wheels checked and cleaned the breaks. Other than a highway speed test drive and a list of other ramdom litte things its about ready for a trip down the mile!
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                  • Russell
                    Legendary BangShifter
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6528

                    #39
                    Re: 1979 Mercury Capri



                    This is the link to my first ever youtube video and I was using my phone so it not best. This was taken after the ignition switch was replace the oil had be changed, fresh gas, battery and Carb that was in the trunk. Nothing else has been done to it. Been sitting for 8 years under a peach tree. After This was taken It lost spark again so I changed the Distributor, and did some more tune up things.

                    Think it will break in to triple diggets as it sits?
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                    • fahrenschnell
                      Legendary BangShifter
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 6787

                      #40
                      Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                      That thing is rat-tastic......Should break 100 I would think.

                      Seth
                      200 mph or bust.......

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                      • SuperBuickGuy
                        No Life Outside BangShift.com
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 32261

                        #41
                        Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                        Originally posted by Russell


                        This is the link to my first ever youtube video and I was using my phone so it not best. This was taken after the ignition switch was replace the oil had be changed, fresh gas, battery and Carb that was in the trunk. Nothing else has been done to it. Been sitting for 8 years under a peach tree. After This was taken It lost spark again so I changed the Distributor, and did some more tune up things.

                        Think it will break in to triple diggets as it sits?
                        Depends, how tall is the cliff you'll be pushing it off? :D
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                        • Russell
                          Legendary BangShifter
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6528

                          #42
                          Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                          ^^^ made me lol! had to look it up a cording to Wiki Answers will not even do it then! :D

                          Assuming atmospheric conditions density of air being 0.0765 pounds/cu. ft. and assuming the car weighs 4000 lbs with dimensions of 6'x15'x5', with a drag coefficient of approximately 0.2...The terminal velocity of a car under these conditions would be about 52 mph. This is assuming it's falling flat. If the car was falling pointing down, the terminal velocity would be something more like 90mph. Obviously this answer will vary by changing the assumptions.


                          This could be pretty sad, I have reason to beleive its a 1973 302....

                          1973 Mustang

                          302 c.i. @ 136 h.p. w/8.5:1 compression with two barrel carburator.

                          Maybe my goal should be to get the $100 car to go 80mph

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                          • SuperBuickGuy
                            No Life Outside BangShift.com
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 32261

                            #43
                            Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                            perhaps you can follow BigblockRanger's method for making his cars go 80..... on a tow strap or on a trailer... ;D

                            There was a Top Gear that dropped a car, then raced it across the ground to the finish.... thought for sure they timed that Bug at 125 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkNaFSJTvEw

                            Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                            • Darren N.
                              Superhero BangShifter
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 917

                              #44
                              Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                              Originally posted by Russell
                              1973 Mustang

                              302 c.i. @ 136 h.p. w/8.5:1 compression with two barrel carburator.
                              Casting numbers on the block and heads should start with D3 for 1973 (ex. D1 for 1971, etc.).

                              By the way, the HP rating standards were changed from 1972 onwards. The "136hp" is the net HP after factoring in parasitic losses from running the accessories. The 1971 302 2V was rated at 210 HP-gross - besides a slight drop in compression (9:1 to 8.5:1) for 1972 and 1973, nothing else was changed.

                              I've played with a few 72-73 302's. They have lower compression than the pre-71 motors but they still run strong. My dad ran a stock '73 302 2V in place of the 351CJ in his '72 Mach 1 and it was still plenty of fun with a 4 speed. I can tell you from experience that it will keep up with the later 5.0L motors ;).

                              Really, all you are is a set of heads away from building a solid performer. A mild cam, intake and carb should really get things going. These motors have 2-bolt mains but they'll live up to 6000 RPM with good valve springs and a matching cam (stockers usually run out of steam around 5500 RPM when valve float joins the party).

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                              • Russell
                                Legendary BangShifter
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6528

                                #45
                                Re: 1979 Mercury Capri

                                That's good to hear. I don't plan on building this motor I have a late model roller block with gt40p heads that's going in after I make afew baseline passes with the original engine.

                                I maybe getting a set of shining shoes for the mustang/capri tomorrow if all goes well.
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