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BangShift Question Of The Day: How Would You Change The New Truck Game?


BangShift Question Of The Day: How Would You Change The New Truck Game?

In less than five seconds after the photos of the 2020 Chevrolet Silverado HD line were released, you could hear one noise that rose from many, many voices in unison: “GAH!” We can be as nice about it as we want but sugarcoating the truth helps nobody…that is one unrealistically ugly snout on the new Silverado. I’ve tried my best to look at it in every positive light I can find and the closest thing I can come up with is that a designer looked at the first generation C/K truck (1960-66) and did their best to bring that nose back in a modern-appearing manner. And Chevrolet is fully aware of the kickback…after being asked by Autoblog about the reactions that the design evoked from the general public, Silverado marketing manager Hugh Milne had this to say: “How much of that reaction is from people who actually buy these trucks? I read all that stuff, I hear about all that. All of our research that we ever did on this, we’re talking to Heavy Duty buyers of all brands. This front end and this design over the top was one of our best-ranked designs.”

While there will be plenty to say about GM and their focus groups (and the bad results that come out of them every now and then) what needs to be addressed on the whole is the truck market in general. The workhorses are also playtoys. The basic rig has now kicked the crap out of the sedan, the minivan and only begrudgingly shares driveways with sport-utility vehicles. This worship of trucks is almost ridiculous anymore…you need to have the most torque, the highest payload, and need to be able to tow around your own personal fuel station without thinking twice. Tell me how nearly three million people in 2017 can argue about how they need the top-tier J2807 towing ability for their around-town duties, or how a $90,000 truck that can’t haul a 53-foot trailer behind it is useful to anything except ego? Trucks get bigger and gaudier every few years and have done so since about the year 2000. The new Ford Ranger is selling so well that Ford is adding additional shifts to meet demand. FCA is considering jumping into the midsize market themselves.

The work truck is now the “fleet sales” truck. The top models look like Cadillacs, Lincolns and Imperials inside. The mid-size truck compares to a full-size from a couple of decades ago in sales. So, where would you start making changes if you were in charge for a day?


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25 thoughts on “BangShift Question Of The Day: How Would You Change The New Truck Game?

  1. Singapore Hot Rod

    All it’s going to take is one of the after market companies changing up the grill, a 6” lift, wheels and tires and everyone will rave how amazing and edgy it looks. Remember this 6 months from now when Chevy is smashing sales records with this “hideous” design.

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    1. Roger

      Yea… right. Ugly is ugly and that truck had ugly in spades! It will NEVER be popular. I’ll be back here in 6 months and I will post sales figures that I guarantee you will not like. The F150 and the Ram will eat this pig’s lunch!

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  2. David

    How would I change the game?

    1st…fix the front end of the Chevy…YUCK!!!!!

    Then, I would bring back the, stripped down, basic, two door, standard cab. Go to a dealership…the chance they have one, is slim to none. The closest, that I found recently, was at a Nissan Dealership…the Titan full sized truck.

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  3. Make trucks great again

    It\’s not about making trucks that people need, it\’s about corporate greed. Take the highest profit margin vehicles the big 3 produce, then overate the capabilities to a category where they can exploit the lack of federal regulations compared to lighter pickups and heavier air brakes trucks. Then in GM\’s case take in 8.1billion in profits last year so you can fire 8000 salaried and 6000 hourly workers. If you like these trucks better get one soon because under liberal Mary Barra\’s plan they will be replaced by autonomous vehicles and ride sharing.

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  4. oldsquid

    We can’t fix it because consumers are too stupid as a whole to affect change. The last 15 years of trucks are lease friendly, ugly, bloated, terrific drivetrain machines that have the interiors of luxury cars, are overpriced and look like transformers. I can’t be the only guy on here that would love a shortbox fleetside p/u with zero bells and whistles but I can’t change things on my own, I sent a letter to one of the Detroit big three customer relations emails a couple of years ago asking why they didn’t build a stripper 4 cyl std small truck and the answer was surprising because of the honesty, and it read why would they build a vehicle along those lines when the bigger full load more expensive trucks were flying off their lots? Until car/truck people as a whole say we’ve had enough of Detroit ugly there won’t be a change, park a 2006 GMC shortbox next to that monstrosity in the picture above and it would lead to real car guys puking. And yet, that ugly p.o.s. will be littering the highways riding the back bumpers of small cars, leaning on the left hand side of the road so the lights drill you right in the rearview and driver’s side mirror as they try to force you to move over because hey! Can’t you see I’m in a 60K pickup that I’ve leased and you’re in my way? I’m way too old to be a car guy now, the industry and the curbers have ruined the fun in this.

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  5. bob

    Well, if that was the best ranked design, I would hate to see the lesser ones. It reminds me of the older HD cube vans & Top Kicks. GM just added a piece to the front end grille to accommodate big tires & suspension. Get rid of the bar that says Chevrolet and it would be fine. It’s tough to beat the looks of the F-250. Best looking truck Ford has built yet. And yes, I do own a 1 ton Chevy truck.

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  6. andyb

    I can’t wait for gas to spike up to $5-6/gal again. These trucks will be up for pennies on the dollar.

    Can’t wait.

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    1. Roger

      And the economy will crash and we’ll be in a full fledged depression. And you’ll be just as broke and homeless and hungry as the rest of us.

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  7. Brian Cooper

    They are all too big. A full size truck should be the same size today as a full size truck from the 70’s and 80’s. If they were that size with today’s tech t b ey will perform better and get better economy.

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  8. BeaverMartin

    For GM:
    1. Fire everyone involved in any way with the new Silverado’s design.
    2. Hire Chip Foose as head of design
    3. Build a new C10 that has retro modern styling (67ish) and is the size/weight of the last C10s.
    4. Build a new K5 based on the above truck
    5. Resurrect the El Camino

    For FCA:
    1. Fire whoever thought billboard size letters on the tailgate was a good idea
    2. Bring back the Dodge Name
    3. Make the crosshair grill a no-cost option
    4. Put the Hemi in the JL for God sake
    5. Build a FSJ based on the Ram 1500 chassis, make it look like a M715
    6. Build a Ram based Tahoe and Suburban fighter, build a Gran Waggy Escalade fighter on the same platform

    For Ford:
    Please don’t screw up the Bronco

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  9. KCR

    The thing that I really dont understand about the truck market is. THe big 3 have all done what would turn this all around over night. Dodge did it with the Challenger,Ford with the Mustang and Chevy with the Camaro,kinda. Take the vintage styling .And put a modern spin on it. They already have the design in house . Just up date it a bit ,not too much.They all could go back to the 60’s and look at their truck bodies and use the desings from those with some tweaks. These trucks today are horrid . They have to be as aerodynamic as a huge brick. But People will line up to pay $60,000 all day long for one of these nasty looking things. I am telling the truth .If I won a huge Lotto. I could not make myself buy a new truck like these. I just wonder who these people hire as design engineers. This is what they come up with,and keep their job?Wow

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  10. David Billingsley

    Coming from someone who has bought 15 chev trucks I’m done. Designed to look like a Lego truck, bed rails are too high to lean into the bed, and not built in the U S A. GM your focus groups are not focused.

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  11. Homer

    BeaverMartin
    For GM:
    1. Fire everyone involved in any way with the new Silverado’s design

    You may have gotten your wish. Last week GM walked out 4300 salaried workers, in addition to the ones they bribed into early retirement at the end of last year. The guilty ones may be gone, but since the CEO and president are still there I doubt the ones ultimately responsible (them) are gone. Hate to see anyone lose their jobs, but I don\’t disagree with you.

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    1. BeaverMartin

      I hate to see Americans lose jobs, but I agree that the ship is gonna sink (again) if they continuously churn out crap. I get it that they want to be edgy, but this one is hideous. I predict a hasty re-design ala’ Cherokee. The Titan XD is looking real good right about now. I’m moving back to the mainland this summer and am looking at getting a truck. My jaw dropped when I used Ram’s build it tool on a base, crew cab, 1500 4×4 V8 = $45.000. The Buick Roadmaster Estate I had could pull 7K, and fit a sheet of plywood. At this point I’m gonna have to stop dragging home POS projects because I can’t afford a tow rig.

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  12. Shaff

    All of our research that we ever did on this, we’re talking to Heavy Duty buyers of all brands. This front end and this design over the top was one of our best-ranked designs.”

    So the other designs were apparently even worse

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  13. crazy canuck

    ford and gm ugly dodge meh bring back the 1 ton fleet stripper now for the rant screw gm after all the taxpayers money that bailed them out they shut down the oshawa plant and freakin mexico gets the jobs give me my money back you assholes

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  14. Bryan Lively

    Already mentioned but cannot be overstated is the size of the current crop of trucks, but more importantly the height of the trucks. The height of the beds has made the beds unusable without having to crawl in the bed to access anything in the beds. I am 6-2 and have owned and been around a lot of trucks in my 45 years; I enjoy my 2015 Silverado but you sure can’t put anything in the bed unless you put it at the tailgate to access it, and hope it doesn’t move around if you don’t have the means to tie it down.

    It wasn’t so long ago that you could get a truck from any of the big three in any 1/2, 3/4, or 1-ton iteration and they cargo space be not only usable but highly accessible. I chalk up this batch of lifted trucks we now have to a desire to traverse a boulder in a comparison test that 99.999% of truck owners will never deal with; there’s a host of 55-and-older truck buyers (read AFFLUENT) who might buy a truck and a fifth wheel setup but because of the hassle of the height of current trucks go ahead and spring for a self-contained RV.

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  15. Stovebolt6

    Recently purchased a used 2010 Silverado K1500, Regular Cab short bed.
    It replaces a too rusty 1997 Chevy K1500 of the same configuration. The “new” truck has 225,000 miles and was relatively inexpensive (as pickups go). The thing needed a little TLC, but it runs great. My biggest complaint is the size difference between the 1997 and the 2010. The 2010
    feels gigantic compared to the ’97. I can’t imagine how the 2019 would be
    (if I could have afford one) to drive compared to the old ’97. I’ll have to see
    what’s available when the 2010 gets too rusty to plow my NH driveway any more.

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  16. Threedoor

    Bring back crank windows, wing windows, drip rails, steering columns that tilt instead of drop and tailgates that are made out of 14 gauge with beds that have no plastic on top of them. Throw in kingpin solid axles to boot and lose 500 lb of interior.

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